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 Post subject: Re: Game programs for boards more than 19x19
Post #21 Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 4:17 am 
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Has anyone compiled a KataGo for boards larger than 29x29? for example, up to 37x37? post the link please! it is very interesting! some may think that KataGo will play poorly on large boards. but if we don't try it, how can we know it? and what does it mean bad, it's 9 dan? 7 dan? on large boards you can see something new that is not on the smaller ones. it's a whole new world! new unknown universe !!!

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Post #22 Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 7:06 am 
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the latest version of q5go provides analysis on boards up to 29x29 https://github.com/bernds/q5Go/actions

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Post #23 Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 7:34 am 
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lightvector, could you make a cpu version for big boards, up to 29x29? and maybe increase to 37x37? many "fans" will appreciate it. :) (or at least up to 33x33?)

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Post #24 Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 5:33 am 
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katago-v1.6.1 Bigger board sizes, including cpu version https://github.com/lightvector/KataGo/releases
lightvector you are a wizard!

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Post #25 Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:01 am 
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it is wonderful! in the cpu version, not only a 30b network works, but also a 40x384 network on a 29x29 board without problems !!! taking up only about 2GB of RAM!
on AMD Athlon X4 950 this giant network 40x384 on the board 29x29, 10 visits, about 15 seconds per move! (if numSearchThreads = 3)
and considering that with playouts=1 this network is stronger than 9 dan, 10 visits is very good !!!
(https://lifein19x19.com/viewtopic.php?p=259285#p259285)
but if it's not enough for someone, bet more! :D

I'm almost happy ... oh my dream ... 37x37 :)

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Post #26 Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2020 9:02 am 
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can any of the strong players (and not only) give advice on how I can analyze KataGo play on a big board, for example 29x29? maybe you can use the analysis of a part of the board (19x19) with a lizzie? if I use Tesuji? or something else? any ideas are interesting!

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Post #27 Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2020 10:10 am 
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memory usage (RAM) on different board sizes:

9x9 up to 2,007 GB
13x13 up to 2,035 GB
19x19 up to 2,099 GB
25x25 up to 2,198 GB
29x29 up to 2,265 GB

for about 50 moves. further practically does not change. cpu version 1.6.1, 40x384 network.
with a network of 20 b - 29x29 up to 693 MB.

there are probably no technical problems on boards up to 37x37. lightvector, make please, version up to 37x37! maybe like an experimental release? it will be better than someone else's release! it is not known what the "craftsmen" can do there! pleeease :)

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Post #28 Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:17 am 
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KataGo is a unique program! besides being the strongest, you can choose any board size up to 29x29! and it's strange why it is impossible to 37x37. Leela 0.4.6 (2016-04-07) allows this. but KataGo is incomparably more interesting! perhaps 37x37 is exotic. but isn't the 40x384 network exotic?

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Post #29 Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 6:43 am 
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finally there is a version of KataGo for boards up to 37x37!!!
https://github.com/lightvector/KataGo/i ... -809341260
huge gratitude to @Friday9i !!! :clap: :clap: :clap:


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Post #30 Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 8:00 am 
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KataGo s730 5 playouts - KataGo s730 5 playouts 35 X 35
to view you can use q5go, MultiGo, Sabaki. for Game q5go (up to 36 X 36)


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Post #31 Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 8:24 am 
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finally there is a version of KataGo for boards up to 37x37!!!
https://github.com/lightvector/KataGo/i ... -809341260
huge gratitude to @Friday9i !!! :clap: :clap: :clap:

incredible! I no longer hoped! :D

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Post #32 Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 6:03 am 
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KataGo b10-s114 5 playouts - KataGo b10-s114 5 playouts 36 X 52
to view you can use q5go, Sabaki, MultiGo http://www.ruijiang.com/multigo/


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Post #33 Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 6:19 am 
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for playing up to 52x52 @Friday9i made a version KataGo https://github.com/lightvector/KataGo/i ... -810446890
Thanks a lot to him for that !!! :D

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Post #34 Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 6:56 am 
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is there any more GUI for big boards? up to 37x37 or more?

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Post #35 Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 12:50 pm 
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is there a 52x52 OpenCL version?

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Post #36 Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 12:55 pm 
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Dragon wrote:
is there a 52x52 OpenCL version?

I recently asked @Friday9i to do :)

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Post #37 Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 1:10 pm 
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KataGo 52x52 OpenCL version
https://github.com/lightvector/KataGo/i ... -811418478
thank you so much @Friday9i!!! :D


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Post #38 Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2021 6:53 am 
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I ran KataGo on the command line, boardsize 63, works!
katago-Eigen-100x100.zip
https://github.com/lightvector/KataGo/i ... -810368706
thank you @Friday9i!!!

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Post #39 Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2021 7:16 am 
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games on boards larger than 29x29 of course for fun or experimentation! the strength of the game can be significantly less. also ridiculous moves are possible
https://github.com/lightvector/KataGo/i ... -811069996

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Post #40 Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 6:25 am 
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networks trained on boards larger than 19x19 will play well on boards larger than 29x29. maybe we'll see it soon!

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