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Post #121 Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 6:59 am 
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I have watched the RTX 3070 TI launch online live at German retailers.

At launch, I could access and refresh various sites. No card available. Neither RTX 3070 TI nor RTX 3000-series LHR .

After ca. 20 ~ 30 minutes, these 3070 TI appeared:

- Gigabyte Eagle €619 sold

- Inno3d iChill X3 €619 sold

- MSI Ventus €619 sold

- Gigabyte Gaming OC €1199 available

- Asus Strix €1499 available

"Sold" is a lie or maybe 1 alibi card each found a new owner at MSRP.

Another few minutes later, also the scalping cards have disappeared.

Simply speaking, the new cards do not exist in Germany.

Only scalping cards are, or pretend to be, available. For example, RTX 3080 for at least €1899 (plus postage, of course).

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Post #122 Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 8:16 am 
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The way things are going we'll be lucky to see a new card at a reasonable price before Christmas 2022.

I did see Nvidia was producing "mining only" cards (no video output). I wonder if those would be usable for running AIs? Not that we'll be able to find those either...sigh.

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Post #123 Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 12:02 am 
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Some youtubers pronounce 5700 as "fifty seven hundred" etc. I expect "five thousand seven hundred" or would understand "five [...] seven hundred". Is the first pronunciation, which should represent 50700, a common mistake, American slang or something else? If it is slang, then how do they pronounce 50700?

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Post #124 Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 6:09 am 
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50700 would be "fifty thousand seven hundred"

5700 is commonly spoken as "fifty seven hundred" but "five thousand seven hundred" is more proper, especially when written on the "legal" line of a check.

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Post #125 Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 6:38 am 
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"Fifty seven hundred" is a totally idiomatic (American, at least) English rendering of the number 5700; it is parsed completely analogously to "fifty seven thousand" but with one fewer zero. To take a particularly clear example, it would be painfully unidiomatic to say "the year one thousand nine hundred" rather than "the year nineteen hundred".

I would even consider "fifty seven hundred" to be preferable to "five thousand seven hundred" in most conversation, including academic contexts. It's shorter, and it characterizes the number more clearly (you just hear that it's 57 with a couple of zeros on the end, rather than having to add up 5000 + 700).

I might write out "five thousand seven hundred" on a check, but even there "fifty seven hundred" is completely fine.

(It's possible that it's an Americanism and is not used by British speakers, but it would surprise me very much.)

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Post #126 Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:06 pm 
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RobertJasiek wrote:
Some youtubers pronounce 5700 as "fifty seven hundred" etc. I expect "five thousand seven hundred" or would understand "five [...] seven hundred". Is the first pronunciation, which should represent 50700, a common mistake, American slang or something else? If it is slang, then how do they pronounce 50700?

We also use this way of speaking in German: An Elo number of 1800 is usually pronounced as "Achtzehnhundert" (eighteen hundred). :)

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Post #127 Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 3:22 am 
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"An Elo number of 1800 is usually pronounced as "Achtzehnhundert""

No. Apparently there are some who use this pronunciation; I don't and there are some others who don't. Achtzehnhundert is a common German pronunciation mostly of the years 1100 - 1999 AD but not of future years, such as 2100 - 2999.

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Post #128 Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 3:53 am 
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RobertJasiek wrote:
"An Elo number of 1800 is usually pronounced as "Achtzehnhundert""

No. Apparently there are some who use this pronunciation; I don't and there are some others who don't. Achtzehnhundert is a common German pronunciation mostly of the years 1100 - 1999 AD but not of future years, such as 2100 - 2999.

Tiny correction:
"... of the years ... - 2099 AD!"

"20" = "zwan - zig" does also have TWO syllables only, like "acht - zehn".
"2" & "0" = "zwei" & "tau - send - und" has FOUR

From "21" = "ein - und - zwan - zig" (hundert) on we count FOUR syllables (at least), which makes that pronounciation less advantageous, compared to "zwei - tau - send - und - ein" (hundert).

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Post #129 Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 4:37 am 
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With DATES we normally leave pout the "hundred". Thus 1930-39 we might call the "nineteen thirties" and this woul be true of dates >1000 also.

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Post #130 Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 7:01 am 
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"ten zero zero"?!

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Post #131 Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 7:28 am 
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RobertJasiek wrote:
"ten zero zero"?!

Don't be so childish, every rule has its exceptions.

The year "2000" might a two-thousander, just because "zwei - tau - send" is shorter than "zwan - zig - hun - dert".

The year "2001" might be a two-thousander, too, due to Stanley Kubrik's nineteen-sixtyeight epic film.

The following four-digit numbers will have a preference again to become split in pairs of too.
E.g. the current year is "zwan - zig - ein - und - zwanzig", not "zwei - tau - send - und - ein - und - zwanzig".

+ + + + + + + +

I suppose that in the history of linguistic use the usage of "thousands" only became necessary in fields and at times wherein / when numbers greater than 2,000 had to be mentioned on a regular basis.

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