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Post #21 Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 11:46 pm 
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A small board is absolutely necessary. 9x9 is common, but it feels already big for a beginner, as he has no idea how stones on one side of the board affect those on the other. Anything bigger is just a bore. I myself would start on 3x3 nowadays (after explaining 1x1 and 2x2...).


I've never understood this small-board approach. I'm sure it's nice for some people, but personally I started on a 19x19 and when my friend who taught me the game suggested we play some 9x9 I got bored out of my bloody mind in 1 or 2 games. Had he shown only that to begin with and insisted we play on it(or even smaller) I would not be here right now...

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Post #22 Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 12:48 pm 
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I've never understood this small-board approach. I'm sure it's nice for some people, but personally I started on a 19x19 and when my friend who taught me the game suggested we play some 9x9 I got bored out of my bloody mind in 1 or 2 games. Had he shown only that to begin with and insisted we play on it(or even smaller) I would not be here right now...



This is a great example of different players enjoying differing ways of playing go to start off. Main thing is have fun, I know I loved bringing igowin up to professionnal, I know some guys hate it.

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Post #23 Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:57 pm 
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Mike wrote:
I've never understood this small-board approach. I'm sure it's nice for some people, but personally I started on a 19x19 and when my friend who taught me the game suggested we play some 9x9 I got bored out of my bloody mind in 1 or 2 games. Had he shown only that to begin with and insisted we play on it(or even smaller) I would not be here right now...



Same here.

As I got stronger, I realized there is a big conspiracy here:
Its the teachers who push for 9x9 boards so they don't get bored by playing beginners on 19x19.

As for beginners, you just tell them: that's the game, lets play. And they are usually happy to start plonking stones...

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Post #24 Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 7:56 pm 
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Nothing
If you need to do something to motivate someone to play go, then they shouldn't be playing go.

OTOH. There are things that you can do to unmotivate/demotivate someone, but do you really need me to tell you what they are?

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Post #25 Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 3:58 pm 
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Nothing
If you need to do something to motivate someone to play go, then they shouldn't be playing go.


I dunno... a 6-pack of beer used to do wonders for my motivation...
But that's just me. ;)

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Post #26 Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:09 pm 
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you could use zen go to get them used to 19x19 flow of stones. Zen Go is where 3 players take turns being different colors. The stronger player is always second and it would go like this: player one black first move, player 2 white, player 3 black, player 1 white, player 2 black, player 3 white, etc.

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