If you can arrange it, then I don’t mind. But it would be better if you would help Oren to set up the server by himself, because it would be safer for the user to use the server from the KGS owners than from someone else like me or you.


We have tried to repeat this problem with daal, but it never even happened. This problem is not as easy to repeat as it seems at first glance. Does this happen after scores counting or in games that ends by resigination too?


In fact, if your internet connection is stable you will never disconnet from server, that's why there is no need in such warning. But if you would have even very small lag there is a possibility that you will be dropped, i'm thinking about making a reconnect button (not like a clean connect) where all of the chat's will be restored and game rooms won't be closed like on original KGS client. Or even maybe, it will not be a button, but an automatic system that will try to restore the connection in 30 seconds, then such small delays will not be noticeable.


This is in my TODO list.

It has happened to me no matter if the game ended by resignation or after counting. Only the fact that the game has ended is a fommon factor, during the game everything was fine.


That would be really neat! As a matter of fact, I have experienced disconnects even with a stable internet connection, but only after several hours of being idle. Maybe the KGS server has a matter of kicking you out after a period of x?

Great, thank you!

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Recently after testing with you, the problem occurred again. Perhaps it only happens when the opponent is not using gouniverse...

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Patience, grasshopper.

I tried to do this too, but this the same result

I agree that a hosting by KGS is the best solution. For sure, as a former server admin, I can help Oren to configure his web server.

Oren: is it Apache or nginx ? I know very well Apache and not much nginX (but I can read a doc).

KOCMOHABT: First of all I have to make it work on my own server. For the moment I'm still stuck with the problem I described last January :


Maybe you have a debug version to verbose these errors ?

You need to install the latest version of the JSON-translator on the same domain and change the connection address in the file Src/KGS/Client.js from https://www.gokgs.com/json/access to your translator (lines 884 and 923).

I suppose you mean the file catchable here : https://www.gokgs.com/help/protocol.html
At first glance it is not simple to use, it needs a JSP engine, java 8, json packages and probably a lot of configurations.
I'll install Tomcat and try to make it work and communicate with Apache web server when I'll have some time, maybe at the end of the year.

But if Shin KGS works with this JSON-translator, I imagine that everything has already been configured on the KGS side.
Then I guess that Oren could simply download Go universe master at https://github.com/IlyaKirillov/GoUniverse, put the directory on the KGS server at the same level than Shin KGS, and then try to go with a browser to gouniverse/Src/index.html.

Version 1.5.10:

1. All links leading to webgoboard.com have been changed to webgoboard.net
2. Fixed a problem with sound
3. Fixed a problem with the chat message select
4. Fixed problem with displaying user avatar

Happy New Year holidays!

Thank you so much for continued effort, KOCMOHABT!

Are there any news on the KGS server front concerning GoUniverse?

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No special news yet. I'm still upset that there is no way to register without installing CGoban. In my opinion it must be the first thing to do, to let ppl register through a form on the KGS official site.

About developing GoUniverse:
First of all I want to focus on bugs.
Also I have an idea to rebuild GoUniverse from Chrome-extension to the full desktop-application (cross platform of course). And then I will be able to add IGS server at least.

The good news is we have hired someone to write a web based registration module, so anyone can register without Java. GoUniverse is great, we would love to build on it. Only works on desktops though, so mobile is still an issue for us. Hoping that between GoUniverse and ShinKGS we can cover most of our bases once the registration module is up and running.

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Paul Barchilon,
AGF Vice President
KGS Manager

Where is the actual protocol documented (not the JSON facade)?

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A good system naturally covers all corner cases without further effort.

Hi Mr. Barchilon,

Any shinKGS udates? It's the only option on an old iphone/ipad,
and these key features are still missing:

- no audio ( no stone clicks, etc. );
- no Zoom ( for small mobile touch screens );
- no double-tap confirm ( same; easy mis-tap, fingertips, small screens );
- cannot Create a game offer other than in English Game Room ( hard-coded );
- no game review ( shinkgs is completely confused about variations and move comments, so we cannot even watch a game review, let alone conduct one;
- less important features (pairgo, simul, etc. )

Thanks.

We aren't actively working on either of these clients, but as they are open source, we are hoping the community will work on improving them. The registration module is almost ready to launch, and we are adding links to both ShinKGS and GoUniverse on our home page. We have directed a number of volunteers towards working on these programs. If anyone has programming skills and wants to volunteer, please let me know.

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Paul Barchilon,
AGF Vice President
KGS Manager

I tried ShinKGS and I like it though it lacks some features from CGoban3. Is it still developed or deadwood?

I still have interesting ideas, but i have little time to develop now.

In any way I congratulate you for ShinKGS. It's simple-stylish and let's you play Go instead of gettin confused with 345 options. Meanwhile I like it even better than CGoban3. I hope AGA tries to put effort into ShinKGS because it's more platform-friendly than the client. I still believe KGS has a future.