KGS rank shift?

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Re: KGS rank shift?

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My rank didn't go up. :mad:
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Fedya wrote:My rank didn't go up. :mad:
Did you check the graph? I'm still 3k, but I nonetheless shot up 1/3 of a stone, just like everyone else.
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Maybe I just didn't lose anything for my last loss. ;-)
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Sur wrote: I'll call myself dan player after I reach it in EGF rating (it takes cca 3d KGS in our conditions). Right now, I call myself 13-kyu even when I have a 5-kyu @KGS.

But everyone's perception is different. Mine is caused by going to the tournaments and knowing a lot of 'real' people in our go community. If one plays most of his serious games on KGS, it's only fair he calls himself 1-dan if he reaches it there. You can't blame him and force him to use ranking system you use/like the most :-)
3d KGS is 1d Czech? that seems off to me, I've played against the czech team...
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shapenaji wrote:
Sur wrote: I'll call myself dan player after I reach it in EGF rating (it takes cca 3d KGS in our conditions). Right now, I call myself 13-kyu even when I have a 5-kyu @KGS.

But everyone's perception is different. Mine is caused by going to the tournaments and knowing a lot of 'real' people in our go community. If one plays most of his serious games on KGS, it's only fair he calls himself 1-dan if he reaches it there. You can't blame him and force him to use ranking system you use/like the most :-)
3d KGS is 1d Czech? that seems off to me, I've played against the czech team...
Maybe a strong 2-dan? This is our most recent dan player: http://www.gokgs.com/graphPage.jsp?user=mamutik

Also Laman here, 1-dan KGS, is only 3-kyu EGF.
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Joaz Banbeck wrote:On KGS, I am now 4 dan. :lol:

I gained 4 ranks in about 4 months without playing any rated games.
But the important thing is, are you "4d" or "4d?". They are totally different ranks on KGS. I suspect that you are the latter, which means you are not a KGS 4 dan.
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Sur wrote:
Maybe a strong 2-dan? This is our most recent dan player: http://www.gokgs.com/graphPage.jsp?user=mamutik

Also Laman here, 1-dan KGS, is only 3-kyu EGF.
The thing is, it gets somewhat nonlinear in the dan ranks (AGA 6d can be KGS 4,5, or 6d)

And AGA 6d is generally considered to be European/Chinese 4d
(Technically I'm 2580 in EGF, but that's just because for some reason the tournament used my AGA rating as my starting EGF rating, and then I didn't lose to any European players...)

But I'm not sure, really tough to say what the right conversion is sometimes...
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Funny thing is I found at least one guy that is 1d in EGF and KGS :).
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wms wrote:
Joaz Banbeck wrote:On KGS, I am now 4 dan. :lol:

I gained 4 ranks in about 4 months without playing any rated games.
But the important thing is, are you "4d" or "4d?"...
There is a question mark after it, which in my opinion, is appropriate.
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Pippen wrote:Funny thing is I found at least one guy that is 1d in EGF and KGS :).
This is not funny, but it is normal that in such wide ranges there are some cases where a EGF-1d has a rank of 1d at KGS.
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Joaz Banbeck wrote:
wms wrote:
Joaz Banbeck wrote:On KGS, I am now 4 dan. :lol:

I gained 4 ranks in about 4 months without playing any rated games.
But the important thing is, are you "4d" or "4d?"...
There is a question mark after it, which in my opinion, is appropriate.
The question mark is a symbol which in this context indicates that the system doesn't have enough data to compute your rating accurately. You can read about it here at the bottom of the page: http://www.gokgs.com/help/rmath.html.
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