I approve.
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| Author: | daniel_the_smith [ Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Big Brother Malkovich #2 |
OK, approved. Sorry it took so long. I think I would play E14 but I don't think it's worth a correction. |
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| Author: | Aphelion [ Sat Feb 19, 2011 8:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Big Brother Malkovich #2 |
a through c are the points I considered here. C works immediately, but the resulting sequence allows White to sacrifice for further thickness facing the left:
'b' prioritizes the side, but gives up shape and points in the corner. Its also ambiguous how much I can still exploit the cut at 'c' later on:
If I just play the normal move at a, I still have miai of b and c. This time if he protects the side, I can kill him without giving any thickness in return:
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| Author: | Phelan [ Sun Feb 20, 2011 5:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Big Brother Malkovich #2 |
I keep missing all of Aphelion's replies to my moves... Not a good sign. What's more, now that I see it in play, I don't see a good reply to it. Nothing that will let us live locally, at least. That means that my move could have been better.
I say probable because I still want to think if I can find something better. |
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| Author: | Joaz Banbeck [ Sun Feb 20, 2011 9:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Big Brother Malkovich #2 |
I approve. There is nothing like making a move that threatens to make eye space for us and destroy their eye space at the same time. I like his plans for C12. If he plays it and I approve, then one more move will be 5 moves and we get another correction. Then I can go on a correction spree in the center / lower left.  As a matter of strategy, it makes sense to make corrections a bunch at a time, then lie fallow while the next correction accumulates. |
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| Author: | Phelan [ Mon Feb 21, 2011 5:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Big Brother Malkovich #2 |
Don't see any way to avoid playing here. |
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| Author: | daniel_the_smith [ Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Big Brother Malkovich #2 |
approved. B19 would be better. But corrections are too hard to come by. Come on, cut at E15, I dare you... |
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| Author: | Aphelion [ Thu Feb 24, 2011 7:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Big Brother Malkovich #2 |
White protecting that cut makes E15 seem less interesting. I'm taking this side point first. If white takes gote to connect, thats all the better for me. |
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| Author: | Joaz Banbeck [ Thu Feb 24, 2011 7:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Big Brother Malkovich #2 |
I approve! Eyes for us, another correction, and a cut threat. Aphelion wrote: ...White protecting that cut makes E15 seem less interesting... But it still works. E15 followed by E18 looks unpleasant. Also, E15 folowed by a cut around D11/E11 leaves a large chunk in the center full of disconnected eyeless white stones.
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| Author: | Phelan [ Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Big Brother Malkovich #2 |
Not exactly the move I was expecting here, but I think this still works. |
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| Author: | daniel_the_smith [ Fri Feb 25, 2011 10:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Big Brother Malkovich #2 |
Approved. I kinda like the way that looks. I don't think plays around E15 will kill us, so this is ok. Might be sente, too, if they don't answer I will read deep and kill. Maybe.  |
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| Author: | Joaz Banbeck [ Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Big Brother Malkovich #2 |
To observers: I do believe that the proverbial guantlet has been thrown.  A simple play like F15 or E14 or E13 would have secured white easily, and we could slide south but they press us down so we don't go very far...
... now the lower left corner is becoming one fourth of the board if we don't invade soon. But instead, white almost forces us to play at E15. If we don't play something in the shaded area, the monkey jump at 'a' - perhaps preceded by some kakari or two - might kill us.
So if we have to play in the shaded area, E15 now has become not only the obvious attacking move but a good defending move also. |
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| Author: | Aphelion [ Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Big Brother Malkovich #2 |
I can't see any other acceptable way to live. White is trying to take my lunch money (specificaly pretending that his weaknesses don't exist), and I won't let him |
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| Author: | Joaz Banbeck [ Fri Feb 25, 2011 8:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Big Brother Malkovich #2 |
I approve. As best I can tell, it does not threaten to kill the corner. But it does threaten to make the corner dependent on winning a ko ( we start with B19 ). The problem with that is two-fold: they have better ko threats, and if they win the ko, then their next move will be to capture our stone with A17, wrecking our eye. So it is future aji - if we get connected out, and if they build a structure in the lower left that is vulnerable to ko threats, then we can go after their corner. |
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| Author: | Aphelion [ Tue Mar 01, 2011 8:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Big Brother Malkovich #2 |
Bump - to you, Phelan 
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| Author: | Phelan [ Wed Mar 02, 2011 5:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Big Brother Malkovich #2 |
Sorry, I've been a bit busy.
Another move I didn't expect. I can't really find a good reply to it. I want to cut as below,
but I think black can reply like this instead:
Cutting from the other side seems to have the same problem. I'm now looking at living locally, but it also seems hard to do without strengthening black:
I don't see anything better, however... |
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| Author: | Aphelion [ Wed Mar 02, 2011 5:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Big Brother Malkovich #2 |
Phelan fluctuates from overplaying to being really passive quite a bit. If this gets approved(which I doubt), I am debating between G17 or just skipping the preliminaries and cut at E11 directly. I think there should be some sente moves I can make against his top group more to strengthen myself though (like G17). |
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| Author: | Aphelion [ Tue Mar 08, 2011 6:01 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Big Brother Malkovich #2 |
To make things clear, Phelan has made his move and we are waiting on approval from Daniel. |
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| Author: | daniel_the_smith [ Tue Mar 08, 2011 9:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Big Brother Malkovich #2 |
oh sorry, I must have missed that. I'll respond soon. |
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| Author: | daniel_the_smith [ Tue Mar 08, 2011 10:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Big Brother Malkovich #2 |
OK, by my count my last approval got me another correction, which I will now spend.
It should be clear why this is an improvement. My ultimate goal is to force black to spend a move to live in the upper left. |
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| Author: | Aphelion [ Tue Mar 08, 2011 1:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Big Brother Malkovich #2 |
Mmm..I don't think 5 moves has passed since the last correction. The count should be 7 corrections for Black and 3 for White if this is the move. Are you still going forward with this Daniel? |
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