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 Post subject: Re: #245 Kirby vs. paK0
Post #181 Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 7:26 am 
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$$ | . . . . . X . . . O . . . . W . . . . |
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$$ | . O . . . . . . . X . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O X . X . O . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . X X X . X X . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . X . . . O . X O . . X O X O O . |
$$ | . . X X . X . O . O O . . . O X X O X |
$$ | . O X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I forgot we were playing this game, but I saw your comment in the other thread.

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Post #182 Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:07 am 
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No worries, I have all the time in the world.

So connecting is the obvious move.

But in my study journal I mentioned that I don't count enough, so I'll do that first and then decide on what to do.

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Post #183 Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 2:29 pm 
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . O X O . . X B X . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . X . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O X . X . O . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . X X X . X X . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . X . . . O . X O . . X O X O O . |
$$ | . . X X . X . O . O O . . . O X X O X |
$$ | . O X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Well, I looked into counting, but since he has nothing to count yet and I have cash bottom right and top left I'm gonna say I'm ahead.

We took a few months break from the game, so I guess I have a better perspective of it now.

Overall it is looking great for me(I got handicap stones, duh) and both the bottom and the right are not really alive.

I think I made two big mistakes so far:
- I let him get too much in the center
- I didn't resist hard enough on the left side

Overall he doesn't have anything definitive yet, just a bunch of aji, so as long as I don't screw up too bad this should go great.

I also had another look on the left, I already wrote those stones off, but there are quite a few interesting moves there. D13 and B9 come to mind, but for now I'm happy to just answer his pokes at my stones.

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Post #184 Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 2:33 pm 
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[go]$$Wc
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . O X O . . X X X . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . X . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . W . X . . . . O X . X . O . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . X X X . X X . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . X . . . O . X O . . X O X O O . |
$$ | . . X X . X . O . O O . . . O X X O X |
$$ | . O X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Take the base!

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Post #185 Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 6:02 am 
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[go]$$Wc
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . O X O . . X X X . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . X . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . O X . X . O . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . X X X . X X . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . X . . . O B X O . . X O X O O . |
$$ | . . X X . X . O . O O . . . O X X O X |
$$ | . O X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Bad shape, but pretty much every variation that I read trying to kill the bottom seems to fail because he can play there.

It looks forcing enough and I don't see any really urgent places elsewhere.

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Post #186 Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 6:07 pm 
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$$ | . . . . . X . . . O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . O X O . . X X X . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . X . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . O X . X . O . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . X X X . X X . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . X . . . O X X O . . X O X O O . |
$$ | . . X X . X . O . O O . . . O X X O X |
$$ | . O X O O W . . . . . . . . . X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I can't see a way for him to kill me. If he finds a way, he deserves to win.

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Post #187 Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 11:16 pm 
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Even if black may not be able to kill everything, this is problematic :

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$$ | . . . . . X . . . O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . O X O . . X X X . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . X . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . O X . X . O . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . X X X . X X . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . X . . . O X X O . . X O X O O . |
$$ | . . X X . X . O 1 O O . . . O X X O X |
$$ | . O X O O O . 3 2 . . . . . . X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #188 Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 2:09 am 
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[go]$$Wc
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . O X O . . X X X . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . X . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . O X . X . O . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . X X X . X X . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . X . . . O X X O . . X O X O O . |
$$ | . . X X . X . O B O O . . . O X X O X |
$$ | . O X O O O . . . . . . . . . X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


His last move threw me off a bit, it seems like if he blocks now I can just cut at h2.

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Post #189 Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 4:55 am 
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . O X O . . X X X . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . X . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . O X . X . O . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . X X X . X X . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . X . . . O X X O . . X O X O O . |
$$ | . . X X . X . O X O O . . . O X X O X |
$$ | . O X O O O . . W . . . . . . X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #190 Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 1:15 am 
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . O X O . . X X X . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . X . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . O X . X . O . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . X X X . X X . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . X . . . O X X O . . X O X O O . |
$$ | . . X X . X . O X O O . . . O X X O X |
$$ | . O X O O O . B O . . . . . . X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #191 Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:15 am 
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . O X O . . X X X . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . X . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . O X . X . O . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . X X X . X X . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . X . . . O X X O . . X O X O O . |
$$ | . . X X . X . O X O O . . . O X X O X |
$$ | . O X O O O W X O . . . . . . X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #192 Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 7:43 am 
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . O X O . . X X X . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . X . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . O X . X . O . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . X X X . X X . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . X . . . O X X O . . X O X O O . |
$$ | . . X X . X . O X O O . . . O X X O X |
$$ | . O X O O O O X O B . . . . . X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #193 Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:00 am 
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . O X O . . X X X . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . X . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . O X . X . O . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . X X X . X X . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . X . . . O X X O . . X O X O O . |
$$ | . . X X . X . O X O O . . . O X X O X |
$$ | . O X O O O O C O X . . . . . X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . W . . . . . . . . X . X |
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Post #194 Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:24 pm 
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . O X O . . X X X . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . X . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . O X . X . O . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . X X X . X X . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . X . . . O X X O . . X O X O O . |
$$ | . . X X . X . O X O O . . . O X X O X |
$$ | . O X O O O O . O X B . . . . X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . X . X |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #195 Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:43 am 
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . O X O . . X X X . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . X . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . O X . X . O . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . X X X . X X . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . X . . . O X X O . . X O X O O . |
$$ | . . X X . X . O X O O . . . O X X O X |
$$ | . O X O O O O . O X X . . . . X . X . |
$$ | . . . W . . . O . . . . . . . . X . X |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #196 Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 7:39 am 
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Seems like I kept sente, which is great.

I'll do some reading, but if I don't find anything too menacing, the next step is probably to poke his group on the right side.

S8 looks promising, but I gotta see weather or not that actually threatens a kill.

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Post #197 Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 6:08 am 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . O X O . . X X X . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . X B . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . O X . X . O . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . X X X . X X . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . X . . . O X X O . . X O X O O . |
$$ | . . X X . X . O X O O . . . O X X O X |
$$ | . O X O O O O . O X X . . . . X . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O . . . . . . . . X . X |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I don't think anything too threatening can happen in this area.

Unfortunately I did not find a good move on the right.

This move should be fine, it strengthens my weakest group and helps me in an area where he has a lot of potential aji.

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Post #198 Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 6:23 am 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . O X O . . X X X . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . X X W . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . O X . X . O . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . X X X . X X . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . X . . . O X X O . . X O X O O . |
$$ | . . X X . X . O X O O . . . O X X O X |
$$ | . O X O O O O . O X X . . . . X . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O . . . . . . . . X . X |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Optimistically, if I control the entire endgame, I still see a 20 point gap - he did well on the bottom, and I believe the top was a great place to play next ( I would have played on top myself if I had gotten sente).

So I can't just aim for endgame. In Korean, this might qualify as a 승부수 - do or die move.

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Post #199 Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 4:00 pm 
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . O X O . . X X X . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . X X O . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . B . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . O X . X . O . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . X X X . X X . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . X . . . O X X O . . X O X O O . |
$$ | . . X X . X . O X O O . . . O X X O X |
$$ | . O X O O O O . O X X . . . . X . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O . . . . . . . . X . X |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Hane seems like the natural move, I did some light reading, but there are too many variations to make an educated guess, so lets just go with my gut feeling.

I did not find a definitive way this ends in disaster, so that makes me feel slightly less worse.

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Post #200 Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:09 pm 
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . O X O . . X X X . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . W X X O . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . X . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . O X . X . O . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . X X X . X X . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . X . . . O X X O . . X O X O O . |
$$ | . . X X . X . O X O O . . . O X X O X |
$$ | . O X O O O O . O X X . . . . X . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O . . . . . . . . X . X |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


No particular reason.

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