EdLee
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by EdLee Sun Jul 01, 2012 8:31 pm
$$Wm62 Prisoners: :b1: :w1:
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If B pushes and cuts immediately:
$$B
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LexC
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by LexC Mon Jul 02, 2012 3:34 am
$$Bm63 Prisoners: :b1: :w1:
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What I read
$$Bm63 Prisoners: :b1: :w1:
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by EdLee Mon Jul 02, 2012 4:28 am
$$Wm64 Prisoners: :b1: :w1:
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by LexC Mon Jul 02, 2012 7:45 am
$$Bm65 Prisoners: :b1: :w1:
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What I read looks better than I previous read
$$Bm65 Prisoners: :b1: :w1:
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by EdLee Mon Jul 02, 2012 4:49 pm
$$Wm66 Prisoners: :b1: :w1:
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Still very unsure. Maybe something like
and
, etc. is good for B?
$$B
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by LexC Tue Jul 03, 2012 4:38 am
$$Bm67 Prisoners: :b1: :w1:
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by EdLee Tue Jul 03, 2012 4:50 am
First feeling:
$$W
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by EdLee Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:54 pm
$$Wm68 Prisoners: :b1: :w1:
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Decided
is gote. After
helps the W group, I have more freedom.
For
, I debated about just pulling back with
-- same idea, to get sente for
--
(in fact, this result looks better than in the game, doesn't it?
)
$$W
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The spot
is nice, so of course I wanted to take it myself with
(for
).
But, again, I did not see any severe follow-up to
, so
seemed gote, so I rejected it:
$$W
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by LexC Thu Jul 05, 2012 8:34 am
$$Bm69 Prisoners: :b1: :w1:
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by EdLee Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:33 pm
$$Wm70 Prisoners: :b1: :w1:
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Give up one ko threat, but it seems sente. Otherwise, if the local situation changes later,
B can simply atari
(more efficient), not having to reduce the libs of the 3 W stones.
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by LexC Sat Jul 07, 2012 3:10 am
$$Bm71 Prisoners: :b1: :w1:
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by EdLee Mon Jul 09, 2012 9:47 pm
$$Wm72 Prisoners: :b1: :w1:
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Still not sure.
Part of the reason for the timing of
atari was to prepare for
.
Is that a shared area of sorts? Maybe something like
(helps the (a) areas for B).
I'm still hoping, with every move, to slowly make the tengen
inefficient/misplaced --
not sure if that's happening, either.
$$B
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by LexC Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:55 am
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by Loons Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:50 am
$$Wm72 Prisoners:
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I thought about it for a little bit, and I really want to play 'a' and try to drag the game to the marked stones. I was initially thinking about 'b', but I don't want to spend a move in black's bottom left while it seems to have options.
Of course, I have lost my last twelve million games straight, so who knows. In other news, I'm not entirely sure why black was thinking about white playing Q2.
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by LexC Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:06 am
$$Bm31 Prisoners: :b1: :w1:
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What I read
$$Bm31 Prisoners: :b1: :w1:
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and 
, etc. is good for B? 
is gote. After 
helps the W group, I have more freedom.
, I debated about just pulling back with 
-- same idea, to get sente for 
--
)
(more efficient), not having to reduce the libs of the 3 W stones.
atari was to prepare for 
.
inefficient/misplaced --