Double sente? But when white played in that area black tenukied! So I think it is only Black's sente. It's not clear Black should use it though because it eliminates the possibility of saving the stones outright. So Black moving there could be aji-keshi.Joaz Banbeck wrote:If he is going to go territory grabbing, he should have played the dual sente move at G11 first, then grabbed the corner:
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Another strange comment about double sente. If the upper left is really double sente, then white should play there in sente, and then play in the middle next, in order to get both.Joaz Banbeck wrote:There are two big plays on the board, and two medium-sized ones.
The upper left is a double sente worth about 15 points.
The lower right ( S2 by white lives! ) is big...it is hard to count...maybe 25-30 points to the first player. It is dual gote.
The lower left - connecting or disconnecting my stones - is also around 25-30 points, and also gote for both.
The middle - where I played - is worth maybe 20 points...but is also hard to count. It is hard to say if it is sente or gote when I play it. The PITA is that it is big sente for him.
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Re: Malkovich 104 - Joaz vs Chew Terr
Will you play 'b' on this board? Probably you would think it's too deep. What if I told you there was a 5 point bonus if you could prevent 'a' from being white's territory? Oh a 5 point bribe isn't enough?
The 5 stones in the 'a' area are garbage stones, and as garbage stones should have very little effect on where you choose to play next.
The 5 stones in the 'a' area are garbage stones, and as garbage stones should have very little effect on where you choose to play next.
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Re: Malkovich 104 - Joaz vs Chew Terr
Good game, guys.
I also had the impression that Chew was distracted toward the end of the game.
I also had the impression that Chew was distracted toward the end of the game.
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Re: Malkovich 104 - Joaz vs Chew Terr
I'm sorry, I didn't offer many useful comments - good game to you both though!Joaz Banbeck wrote:@Topazg, MW, Ed, Loons, and others: Thanks for the comments. I must go back and read them at some length.
2-0 against magicwand in even Malkovich games is pretty good evidence I'd have thoughtJoaz Banbeck wrote:@Violence:Sometime we must find out if you can play well enough to back up comments like that.Violence wrote:Am I the only one who thinks Joaz's sequences range from decent to normal to completely insane?
That said, I'd love to see you play him too!
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Re: Malkovich 104 - Joaz vs Chew Terr
Big sente for him; rather small for me. If I play it, he can tenuki and take something bigger.yoyoma wrote:Another strange comment about double sente. If the upper left is really double sente, then white should play there in sente, and then play in the middle next, in order to get both.Joaz Banbeck wrote:There are two big plays on the board, and two medium-sized ones.
The upper left is a double sente worth about 15 points.
The lower right ( S2 by white lives! ) is big...it is hard to count...maybe 25-30 points to the first player. It is dual gote.
The lower left - connecting or disconnecting my stones - is also around 25-30 points, and also gote for both.
The middle - where I played - is worth maybe 20 points...but is also hard to count. It is hard to say if it is sente or gote when I play it. The PITA is that it is big sente for him.
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Re: Malkovich 104 - Joaz vs Chew Terr
2-1 is correct.topazg wrote: 2-0 against magicwand in even Malkovich games is pretty good evidence I'd have thought
That said, I'd love to see you play him too!
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Thank you all for your insightful comments. Reading through this thread is... really humbling. Hopefully I can study and learn from it, but it's still hard to watch yourself get crushed.
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Re: Malkovich 104 - Joaz vs Chew Terr
I apologise magicwand, you are quite rightMagicwand wrote:2-1 is correct.topazg wrote: 2-0 against magicwand in even Malkovich games is pretty good evidence I'd have thought
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Re: Malkovich 104 - Joaz vs Chew Terr
I would have thought this is a way of saying "sente for him, not sente for me".Joaz Banbeck wrote:Big sente for him; rather small for me. If I play it, he can tenuki and take something bigger.
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Re: Malkovich 104 - Joaz vs Chew Terr
Hopefully you don't feel down, Chew. I think I can understand your feeling to some degree having been crushed, myself. Actually, I think you did really well for the first part of the game, so I wouldn't feel bad about anything, really.Chew Terr wrote:Thank you all for your insightful comments. Reading through this thread is... really humbling. Hopefully I can study and learn from it, but it's still hard to watch yourself get crushed.
I'd suggest playing another Malkovich games. After getting crushed time after time, it hurts a little less.
Well, maybe not...
I am still humiliated from time to time, but... I guess that's the way the game goes.In any case, please don't feel upset about the game. You were rockin' until the last bit!
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No rush; the honeydo list is long.Violence wrote:Sure, Joaz, just after I clean off my own plate... I'm planning to move in my other Malkovich tonight.
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