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Offline Zwergesel
 Post subject: Re: 60. Marcus (4k) vs. Zwergesel (3k)
Post #41 Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:00 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm30 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . . O . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . O . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
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$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
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$$ | . . O , . . O . . , . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . O X X O . X . O . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X X . X X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Instead of attacking my stone he gives his group easy life. I think I need to seize that opportunity and move out with my invasion stone. If he captures one stone on top in gote, I will cap his weak group and chase it or kill it if possible. If he defends the weak group, I can defend the top or approach the top left – whatever seems bigger.
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Offline Marcus
 Post subject: Re: 60. Marcus (4k) vs. Zwergesel (3k)
Post #42 Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:18 am 
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[go]$$Bcm31 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . . O . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
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$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
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$$ | . . O , . . O . . , . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . O X X O . X . O . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X X . X X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This is the widest area on the board. I know I still have a weak group on the right, but this feels just too big to pass up.

Perhaps it should be noted at this point that I've been losing a lot of games lately. :D My positional judgement seems really far off when I go back and look at my games. We'll have to see how this game turns out.
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Offline Dusk Eagle
 Post subject: Re: 60. Marcus (4k) vs. Zwergesel (3k)
Post #43 Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:25 am 
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[go]$$Wcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . 4 1 3 9 5 X . . . O . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . 2 X 7 6 0 . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . 8 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
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$$ | . . O , . . O . . , . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . O X X O . X . O . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X X . X X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Wcm11
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . 5 . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 1 . . . . 3 4 . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X O O O O X . . . O . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . 2 X X O X X . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . B . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . b c . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . a . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . O . . , . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . O X X O . X . O . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X X . X X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Let's say white invades here. Now won't the black stone seem too close? I would've preferred to extend all the way to 'a', or at least as far as 'b' or 'c'.

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[go]$$Bcm1
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . . O . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . a 1 . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . O . . , . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . O X X O . X . O . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X X . X X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

This is just my idea, but if white responds at :w2:, preventing black from playing there himself, black could then close the corner, and it seems better than simply closing the corner directly and letting white play :w2: at 'a'. But what do I know?

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Offline Zwergesel
 Post subject: Re: 60. Marcus (4k) vs. Zwergesel (3k)
Post #44 Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 3:26 am 
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[go]$$Wcm32 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . . O . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . X . . |
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$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . O . . , . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . O X X O . X . O . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X X . X X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

It doesn't feel right not to help his weak group. I'm going to play the cap and see how he answers. He certainly won't ignore this and the 3-3 invasion is still open, so I can take his corner away, when I get sente.
This is the stage of the game, that I'm usually not very good at. Direction of play is very important now and I don't know how the groups will develop and which points are most important. I'll play instinctively and try to learn from the results :)
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Offline Marcus
 Post subject: Re: 60. Marcus (4k) vs. Zwergesel (3k)
Post #45 Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 6:21 pm 
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Sorry for the delay. I'm currently on vacation, and haven't had much time to think of this game. I'll move soon enough.
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Offline Marcus
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Post #46 Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 10:11 am 
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[go]$$Bcm33 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . . O . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . O . . , . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . O X X O . X . O . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X X . X X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Alright, coming back to this game after so long a break, it feels ... awkward. :D I remember in a previous Malkovich game I floundered around with a couple stones and it made the game very difficult on me. Losing those stones is HUGE, but the board is still pretty open. I'll see if there's a better way to use them later, but for now they'll sit there, doing nothing.

Now, let's see if I can cause trouble way on the other side of the board. :D
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Offline Zwergesel
 Post subject: Re: 60. Marcus (4k) vs. Zwergesel (3k)
Post #47 Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 5:38 am 
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[go]$$Wcm34 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . . O . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . |
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$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . O . . , . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . O X X O . X . O . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X X . X X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I'm in Holland for a week, but will be playing sporadically from the Internet Cafe.
Not that I played much last week :) Sorry bout that!

Not many thoughts, because the internet is expensive here. I just think that I must exploit the weakness of his left side group somehow. I'd like to invade the corner too, but then my last move would have been bad.
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Offline Marcus
 Post subject: Re: 60. Marcus (4k) vs. Zwergesel (3k)
Post #48 Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 6:46 am 
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No worries, take your time!

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[go]$$Bcm35 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . . O . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . 1 . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . O . . , . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . O X X O . X . O . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X X . X X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Well, all is going more or less as expected ... I don't want to jump around with those two stones, they'll just become a burden. However, White seems intent on spending several moves making sure they're dead.

Speaking frankly, the length of time between moves in a Malkovich game leaves a sort of gap between my current strategy ideas and my previous strategy ideas from move to move. Perhaps it's because my style of play is once again fluctuating as I try new things. Whatever the cause, I'm likely to tenuki again after this move. If I can keep my opponent dancing about, or if he spends too many moves securing a (relatively) small area, I can spread out across the board.

At least, that's the theory, right? ;)
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Offline Zwergesel
 Post subject: Re: 60. Marcus (4k) vs. Zwergesel (3k)
Post #49 Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 7:12 am 
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[go]$$Wcm36 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . . O . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . 1 . X . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . O . . , . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . O X X O . X . O . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X X . X X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


NOW he's running! Can he still get away? I don't know, but I'll certainly chase him and make as much profit as possible. This move seems like a natural chasing move. With the right timing I might even be able to hurt his group on the bottom somehow:

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[go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . . O . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . W . X . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . O . 5 , . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . O X X O . X . O . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . 3 1 2 X X . X X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 4 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Something like this...
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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: 60. Marcus (4k) vs. Zwergesel (3k)
Post #50 Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 8:14 am 
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black is wrong and white is wrong.
black can not afford to give up that stone. also..white will be far ahead and simple by capturing one stone. (black is not stable yet and will be attacked)
i guess this is a difference between sdk and dan.
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[go]$$Wcm36 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . . O . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . O . . , . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . O X X O . X . O . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X X . X X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline Marcus
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Post #51 Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 12:43 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm37 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
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$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . O . X . . X . . |
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$$ | . . O , . . O . . , . 1 . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . O X X O . X . O . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X X . X X O . . . . . . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


peep!
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Post #52 Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 8:18 am 
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[go]$$Wcm38 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X . . |
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$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . O . X . . X . . |
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$$ | . . O , . . O . . , . X 1 . . O O . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . X X . X X O . . . . . . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Does he expect me to connect against the peep? I think cutting him off with :w38: is stronger.

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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . b . . . X . . . O . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
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$$ | . . . O . . . . . . 6 O 8 X . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 7 5 3 4 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . O . . , 2 X W . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . O X X O . X . O 1 O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X X . X X O 9 0 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . a . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

If he pushes in, I'll play this sequence (possibly with :w8: at :b9:).
The result looks good to me; the stones on the right have little options now.
Also, if he captures at 'a' in the diagram above, I get sente to invade at 'b'.
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Post #53 Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 10:42 am 
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[go]$$Bcm39 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
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$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . O 1 X . . X . . |
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$$ | . . O , . . O . . , . X O . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . O X X O . X . O . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X X . X X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


BUMP! I have an idea ... let's see how this goes ... no variations yet, still examining.

Am I too hasty in my play? Maybe ...
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Post #54 Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 9:36 am 
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[go]$$Wcm40 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . . O . . O . . X . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . O X X . . X . . |
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$$ | . . O , . . O . . , . X O . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . O X X O . X . O . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X X . X X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Post #55 Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 8:57 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm41 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
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$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 O . |
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$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . O X X . . X . . |
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$$ | . . O , . . O . . , . X O . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . O X X O . X . O . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X X . X X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I think I'll need to revisit my comments for the last few moves ... I'm not sure what I'm smoking ... must be good stuf, though. ;)
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Post #56 Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 9:57 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm42 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . O X X . . X 1 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . O . . , . X O . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . O X X O . X . O . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X X . X X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . . O . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X 9 . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . 4 3 5 . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . O X X . . X 1 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 2 8 |
$$ | . . O , . . O . . , . X O . . O O 7 . |
$$ | . . . O X X O . X . O . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X X . X X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

This seems fine and after :b2: the sequence is pretty much forced.
Note that he can't capture me (unless there's something I didn't read correctly)

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[go]$$Bcm8 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
$$ . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . O . O . . |
$$ . . . . . . 5 8 . |
$$ . . . . . 6 4 3 . |
$$ . . . . O . X 2 . |
$$ . . . . . 7 X O . |
$$ . O . . . X O O . |
$$ . O X X . . X O 1 |
$$ . . . . . . X X . |
$$ . X O . . O O O . |
$$ O . O . . . . . . |
$$ X O . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ------------------[/go]

or

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[go]$$Bcm8 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
$$ . . . . . . . 8 . |
$$ . . . . O . O 7 . |
$$ . . . . . . 6 5 . |
$$ . . . . . . 4 3 . |
$$ . . . . O . X 2 9 |
$$ . . . . . 0 X O . |
$$ . O . . . X O O . |
$$ . O X X . . X O 1 |
$$ . . . . . . X X . |
$$ . X O . . O O O . |
$$ O . O . . . . . . |
$$ X O . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ------------------[/go]


He could also try pushing in first. But I should be okay:

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[go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
$$ . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . O . O . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . O . X . . |
$$ . . . . . . X O . |
$$ . O . . . . 4 2 3 |
$$ . O X X . . X 1 . |
$$ . . . . . . . 5 . |
$$ . X O . . O O . . |
$$ O . O . . . . . . |
$$ X O . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ------------------[/go]

or

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[go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
$$ . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . O . O . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . O . X . . |
$$ . . . . . . X O . |
$$ . O . . . 6 5 2 3 |
$$ . O X X . . X 1 . |
$$ . . . . . . . 4 . |
$$ . X O . . O O . . |
$$ O . O . . . . . . |
$$ X O . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ------------------[/go]

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[go]$$Wcm7 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
$$ . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . O . O . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . O . X 5 . |
$$ . . . . . . X O . |
$$ . O . . . X O 1 O |
$$ . O X X . . X O . |
$$ . . . . . . 2 X 4 |
$$ . X O . . O O 3 . |
$$ O . O . . . . . . |
$$ X O . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ------------------[/go]
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Post #57 Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 12:49 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm43 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . . O . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . 1 . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . O X X . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . O . . , . X O . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . O X X O . X . O . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X X . X X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Something like this, I think:

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[go]$$Bcm43 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . . O . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . 5 . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . 3 1 2 |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . O X X . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 . |
$$ | . . O , . . O . . , . X O . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . O X X O . X . O . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X X . X X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Post #58 Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 6:59 am 
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[go]$$Wcm44 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . . O . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
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$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . X 1 |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . O X X . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . O . . , . X O . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . O X X O . X . O . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X X . X X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Post #59 Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 7:36 am 
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[go]$$Wcm44 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . . O . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . 2 X O |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . O X X . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . O . . , . X O . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . O X X O . X . O . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X X . X X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Here we go. The fight begins.
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[go]$$Wcm46 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
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According to plan. I have to connect here.
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