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 Post subject: Re: #235 OtakuViking vs VincentCB
Post #61 Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 11:41 am 
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Black played this:
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[go]$$c Black: 0 White: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . O O X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . X X X O O X X O . . O X . . . |
$$ | . O O , X O O X O X . . . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X O . X X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X O . O . . B . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . , . . . X . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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My gut feel is that black had to play this:

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[go]$$c Black: 0 White: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . O O X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . X X X O O X X O . . O X . . . |
$$ | . O O , X O O X O X d . . e O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X O . X X . . . X f . . |
$$ | . . . . a O O X O . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . c . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . b . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . B . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . g . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . , . . . X . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Any thoughts?

I've labeled the groups above with letters for convenience...

As it stands prior to the black move, B C D and E are all weak and about to engage in a running fight. A and F are strong.

I think that B is quite weak, compared to the others, and so if black starts running with it and makes it heavier, white can lean by chasing it with C, and then use that to attack D with E. In the meanwhile, B only lives on dame, and doesn't have a lot of impact on the rest of the game. For this purpose, I am just assuming a series of one space jumps, possibly with white peeps on the left. With the trade, black is exchanging 4 stones on a relatively small scale for 4 stones on a larger scale. Assuming white can't get too much more out of the aji of E than black can with B, black seems ahead after the trade apart from the center strength that white built. That said, white was going to build center strength one way or another.

Later on, there is also some question of the safety of G that will come into play, and I would much rather have a more open center and potential for forcing moves than to have a string of heavy stones and be more sealed in as black.

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Post #62 Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 6:31 am 
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[go]$$c Black: 0 White: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . O O X O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . X X X O O X X O . . O X . . . |
$$ | . O O , X O O X O X . . . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X O . X X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X O . O . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , B . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . , . . . X . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I have a hard time deciding between this move and a move on the bottom side. I went for the right side, putting a bit of pressure on the white group there. I have a nice follow-up at 'a' below. Concerning the bottom side, I might want to play at 'b' later, so a move there might end up approaching a strong white group a bit too closely. One more thing: I'm not sure the marked exchange was good for white. Now that the black group is loosely surrounded, I think white would rather have the opportunity to push and cut instead.
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[go]$$c Black: 0 White: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . O O X O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . X X X O O X X O . . O X . . . |
$$ | . O O , X O O X O X . . . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X O . X X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X O . O . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . a . . . . |
$$ | . . W B . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . b . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . , . . . X . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #63 Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 8:53 am 
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[go]$$c Black: 0 White: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . O O X O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . X X X O O X X O . . O X . . . |
$$ | . O O , X O O X O X . . . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X O . X X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X O . O . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . W X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . , . . . X . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Here are some of the alternative moves I pondered. I will explain why I chose this move.
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[go]$$c Black: 0 White: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . O O X O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . X X X O O X X O . . O X . . . |
$$ | . O O , X O O X O X . . . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X O . X X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X O . O . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . O . . . . . . a . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . b . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . W X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . c . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . , . . . X . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



This won't turn out well for white.
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[go]$$c Black: 0 White: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . O O X O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . X X X O O X X O . . O X . . . |
$$ | . O O , X O O X O X . . . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X O . X X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X O . O . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . O . . . . . . W . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . 1 . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . , . . . X . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



If I jump like this, protecting meekly, black will follow like this and get alot more than with the reduction attachment I played in the game.
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[go]$$c Black: 0 White: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . O O X O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . X X X O O X X O . . O X . . . |
$$ | . O O , X O O X O X . . . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X O . X X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X O . O . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . 1 . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . W . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . , . . . X . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



The shoulder hit is the most interesting alternative move here. This variation is playable for white, but if black wants to avoid it, he simply extends in the other direction. The main reason I chose the attachment instead of the shoulder hit is that the shoulder hit weakens my other group instead of strengthening it.
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[go]$$c Black: 0 White: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . O O X O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . X X X O O X X O . . O X . . . |
$$ | . O O , X O O X O X . . . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X O . X X . . 7 X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X O . O . . X 6 . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . 4 8 . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . O . . . . . . 5 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . 2 W 3 . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . 1 X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . 9 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . , . . . X . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


If black responds like this to my attachment, my influence will work together nicely and create some potential in the middle.
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[go]$$c Black: 0 White: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . O O X O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . X X X O O X X O . . O X . . . |
$$ | . O O , X O O X O X . . . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X O . X X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X O . O . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . 9 . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . O . . . . 8 7 . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . 6 5 . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . W X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . 2 1 . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O 3 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . , . . . X . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



If black simply plays like this, I have alot of options like a,b,c,d
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[go]$$c Black: 0 White: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . O O X O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . X X X O O X X O . . O X . . . |
$$ | . O O , X O O X O X . . . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X O . X X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X O . O . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . d 1 3 . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . W X . . |
$$ | . b . X . . . . . . . . . . . 2 . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . a X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . , . c . X . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #64 Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 7:37 pm 
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My feeling is black can resist with the extend and double hane connect under squeeze tesuji but I didn't read deeply. Maybe white could find a way to use the aji of this and the dead top group to get something.

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[go]$$c Black: 0 White: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . O O X O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . X X X O O X X O . . O X . . . |
$$ | . O O , X O O X O X . . . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X O . X X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X O . O . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . 9 . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . O . . . . . . 5 8 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . 3 1 4 6 . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . W X 7 . |
$$ | . b . X . . . . . . . . . . . 2 . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . a X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . , . c . X . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #65 Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 5:49 pm 
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I'm really sorry for being so slow, things are quite hectic right now, but it should get better from this week onward.

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[go]$$c Black: 0 White: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . O O X O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . X X X O O X X O . . O X . . . |
$$ | . O O , X O O X O X . . . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X O . X X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X O . O . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . B . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . , . . . X . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Trigger :
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[go]$$c Black: 0 White: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . O O X O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . X X X O O X X O . . O X . . . |
$$ | . O O , X O O X O X . . . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X O . X X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X O . O . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . 3 . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . 1 2 . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . , . . . X . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Just trying to grab sente to play on the bottom.

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 Post subject: Re: #235 OtakuViking vs VincentCB
Post #66 Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:57 am 
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No problem man :)

Trigger Accepted.

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[go]$$c Black: 0 White: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . O O X O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . X X X O O X X O . . O X . . . |
$$ | . O O , X O O X O X . . . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X O . X X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X O . O . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . W X . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . , . . . X . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Black wants white to play here so he can take sente and play at the bottom.
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[go]$$c Black: 0 White: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . O O X O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . X X X O O X X O . . O X . . . |
$$ | . O O , X O O X O X . . . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X O . X X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X O . O . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . 3 . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . 4 O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . 1 2 . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . , . . . X . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . 5 . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


My plan if he responds.
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[go]$$c Black: 0 White: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . O O X O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . X X X O O X X O . . O X . . . |
$$ | . O O , X O O X O X . . . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X O . X X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X O . O . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . 3 . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . O . . . . 2 1 . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . W X . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . 5 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . , . 4 . X . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . 6 . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


One of the possibilities if he doesn't respond and fix his weakness. If he wants to ignore and go for the bottom anyway, he must let me hane at the head of his 2 stones.
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[go]$$c Black: 0 White: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . 9 . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . O O X O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . X X X O O X X O . . O X . . . |
$$ | . O O , X O O X O X . . . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X O . X X . . 8 X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X O . O . . X 6 . 7 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . 4 . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . O . . . . 2 1 5 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . W X . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . , . . . X . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . 3 . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #67 Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 4:03 pm 
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[go]$$c Black: 0 White: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . O O X O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . X X X O O X X O . . O X . . . |
$$ | . O O , X O O X O X . . . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X O . X X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X O . O . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . B X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . , . . . X . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I guess I have to fight... If I hane and take sente it looks too dangerous with the annoying weakness at 'a' below :
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[go]$$c Black: 0 White: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . O O X O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . X X X O O X X O . . O X . . . |
$$ | . O O , X O O X O X . . . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X O . X X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X O . O . . X a . 8 9 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . 6 7 . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . O . . . . . 1 4 5 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . 2 X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . , . . . X . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . 3 . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Pulling back looks just too pitiful. My marked stone goes to waste.
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[go]$$c Black: 0 White: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . O O X O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . X X X O O X X O . . O X . . . |
$$ | . O O , X O O X O X . . . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X O . X X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X O . O . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . O . . . . . . 1 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . 2 B O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . a . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . , . . . X . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . 3 . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


So stretching and fighting looks like the only consistent move. It looks difficult, but white also has weaknesses, like 'a' above. I just hope I have not missed some obvious variation where I get crushed :-?

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Post #68 Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 7:40 pm 
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[go]$$c Black: 0 White: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . O O X O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . X X X O O X X O . . O X . . . |
$$ | . O O , X O O X O X . . . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X O . X X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X O . O . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . O . . . . . . W . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . , . . . X . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Trigger:
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[go]$$c Black: 0 White: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . O O X O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . X X X O O X X O . . O X . . . |
$$ | . O O , X O O X O X . . . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X O . X X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X O . O . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . O . . . . . 2 W 1 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . , . . . X . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]




This is an interesting game for me. First of all, I play an opening I would probably never play. Secondly, Vincent seems to come up with moves I don't even consider as possibilities.

If white is complacent, this black move will cause him alot of grief. I've read out a,b,c and they all end in white being captured.

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[go]$$c Black: 0 White: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . O O X O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . X X X O O X X O . . O X . . . |
$$ | . O O , X O O X O X . . . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X O . X X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X O . O . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . 3 . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . O . . . c . 2 W 1 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . a b . O X . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . 5 . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 . O . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . , . . . X . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


If black plays this instead, white can play like this.
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[go]$$c Black: 0 White: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . O O X O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . X X X O O X X O . . O X . . . |
$$ | . O O , X O O X O X . . . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X O . X X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X O . O . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . 3 . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . O . . 7 6 . 2 W 1 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . 5 . O X . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . 8 . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 . O . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . , . . . X . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



This is what I plan to do. White plays on blacks vital point. This move also puts some pressure on the two back stones. Should black decide to tenuki for the lower side with a large open extension like this, white can jump in and pincer immediately. White should be safe to fight like this because he doesn't have any weak groups, though the a group can still be harassed a little.

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[go]$$c Black: 0 White: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . O O X O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . X X X O O X X O . . O X . . . |
$$ | . O O , X O O X O X . . . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X O . X X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X O . O . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . O . . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . a . O X . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . 2 W . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . 1 X X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . 4 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . , . . . X . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . 5 . 6 . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


If black goes for a tigher extension, 5 or a, he is still left with a weakness that 6 points out.
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[go]$$c Black: 0 White: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . O O X O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . X X X O O X X O . . O X . . . |
$$ | . O O , X O O X O X . . . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X O . X X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X O . O . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . O . . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . a . O X . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . 2 W . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . 1 X X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . 4 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . , . 6 . X . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . 5 a . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #69 Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:06 am 
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Rank: OGS 1 kyu
KGS: KrazyV
Tygem: kaiou19
OGS: VincentCB
Trigger accepted.
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[go]$$c Black: 0 White: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . O O X O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . X X X O O X X O . . O X . . . |
$$ | . O O , X O O X O X . . . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X O . X X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X O . O . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . B . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . O . . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . , . . . X . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Pretty much a one-way street.

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Post #70 Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 10:11 am 
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[go]$$c Black: 0 White: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . O O X O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . X X X O O X X O . . O X . . . |
$$ | . O O , X O O X O X . . . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X O . X X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X O . O . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . O . . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . W . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . , . . . X . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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 Post subject: Re: #235 OtakuViking vs VincentCB
Post #71 Posted: Fri May 02, 2014 3:50 pm 
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[go]$$c Black: 0 White: 0
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$$ | . . . . . O O X O . O . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . O . . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . B . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
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This looks like the correct shape here. 'a' and 'b' are pretty much miai. Playing a one space jump instead is just begging for the attachment at 'c', and the diagonal move look lukewarm.
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[go]$$c Black: 0 White: 0
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$$ | . . . O . . . X O . X X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X O . O . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . O . . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . b X X O . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . a . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . c . O . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . , . . . X . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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 Post subject: Re: #235 OtakuViking vs VincentCB
Post #72 Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 6:38 am 
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[go]$$c Black: 0 White: 0
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$$ | . X . X . . . . O O X O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . X X X O O X X O . . O X . . . |
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$$ | . . . O . . . X O . X X . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . X . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . , . . . X . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . W . . . . . . X O . . |
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I'm unsure which move really is the best in this situation. I considered the moves below, d as a loose extension, b as a way to strengthen white before playing white move in the game, c is just directly protecting, a is trying to force black to connect but it will result in a complicated fight, possibly with 2 weak white groups...

In the end, I opted for the safe route and reduced his wall. It obviously has to be dealt with somehow, but in exchange I leave 1 weak group for him to attack.

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[go]$$c Black: 0 White: 0
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$$ | . X . X . . . . O O X O . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . O O , X O O X O X . . . . O , X . . |
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$$ | . . . . . O O X O . O . . X . b . . . |
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$$ | . . O . . O . . . O . . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . c . . O X . . |
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$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . d . a . X . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . W . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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