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 Post subject: #249 Chiodus vs tj86430
Post #1 Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2015 4:12 am 
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Thanks to tj86430 for accepting my challenge. It would be an even game, komi 6.5 japanese rules, open book. I will take white.
I started to play Go in 2004 and played in KGS and DGS until 2009 when i stopped to study and to play frequent real time game and played mostly on DGS.
Currently i'm 7-8 Kyu
Now i start again and would like to break shodan barrier.

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Post #3 Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2015 10:29 am 
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GG!

The first move is easy, I choose what I'm most familiar with.

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Post #4 Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 4:05 am 
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When i play white my first move is always 4-4, because i think it's fexible and adaptable to many situation

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Sanrensei is what I'm most familiar with. If he makes a sanrensei as well, I will approach F3 or F17. If he approaches O3 or O17, I will most likely squeeze with M3/M17. Should he play R6/R14, I will kick R5/R15 and extend O4/O16

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Post #8 Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 6:42 am 
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Ok, i feel always a bit unconfortable with san-ren-sei. Invade and destroy big moyo it's not my speciality. I stick to simple move and simple joseki.

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As planned.

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From here a know only two joseki.
O15 give black a good wall, and i'm not too strong in using wall also in a moyo vs moyo game i think black leads because he moves first.
So decided to invade to begin my reduction.

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Next i will approach Q4

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Then, :white: has to choose... :)
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I'm happy with e.g.:

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EdLee wrote:
Then, :white: has to choose... :)
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Chiodus wrote:
EdLee wrote:
Then, :white: has to choose... :)
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Hoping to invade in marked points


@chiodus
Er... one of the points of etiquette of a malkovich game is that you don't look at people's hidden comments that aren't explicitly directed to you until after the game.

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skydyr wrote:
Chiodus wrote:
EdLee wrote:
Then, :white: has to choose... :)
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Hoping to invade in marked points


@chiodus
Er... one of the points of etiquette of a malkovich game is that you don't look at people's hidden comments that aren't explicitly directed to you until after the game.
Sorry my fault

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Post #17 Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 8:15 pm 
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No worries. Half the fun is seeing what everyone had to say about your game once it's finished.

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Post #18 Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 9:00 pm 
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Chiodus, it doesn't matter now, but later in the game it may at times be difficult to quickly spot your last move if it's not marked in any way.

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According to plan. Still happy.

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Post #19 Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 1:05 am 
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Sorry, i would check better my diagram!

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Post #20 Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 2:00 am 
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Let's see where he goes next. Earlier plans are still mostly valid.

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