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 Post subject: Re: #252 djllap vs topazg
Post #121 Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 2:01 pm 
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$$ +---------------------------------------+
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X . . . . O O X O O . X . . |
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$$ | . . O . . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X O . . O . O . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . O O O X O . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . O X X O X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X O X . X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]


Pushing again? Hmmmm... I leave some awkward shape and yucky looking squeezes, but I can't easily get into the middle after White plays L9 if I respond again, so it's time to go go go!

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Post #122 Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 4:45 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm101 :b3: :w1:
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X . . . . O O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . X O O O X . . . , . X X X . X . . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . 4 3 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 2 1 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , 5 O X O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . O . . . . 6 X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . X X O O . . . . . . . O X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . O O . . . O . O . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X O . . O . O . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . O O O X O . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . O X X O X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X O X . X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

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Post #123 Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 7:58 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm101 :b3: :w1:
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X . . . . O O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . X O O O X . . . , . X X X . X . . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . 4 3 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 2 1 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , 5 O X O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . O . . . 8 6 X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . X X O O . . . . 9 7 . O X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . O O . . . O . O . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X O . . O . O . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . O O O X O . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . O X X O X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X O X . X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]


I'm assuming :w8: so change it if I'm wrong :)

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Post #124 Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 9:06 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm101 :b3: :w1:
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X . . . . O O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . X O O O X . . . , . X X X . X . . . |
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$$ | . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . 4 3 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 2 1 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , 5 O X O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . O . . 0 8 6 X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . X X O O . . . . 9 7 . O X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . O O . . . O . O . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X O . . O . O . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . O O O X O . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . O X X O X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X O X . X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

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Post #125 Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2016 3:15 am 
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$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X . . . . O O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . X O O O X . . . , . X X X . X . . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , X O X O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . O . . O O O X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . X X O O . . . . X X 1 O X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . O O . . . O . O . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X O . . O . O . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . O O O X O . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . O X X O X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X O X . X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

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Post #126 Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2016 8:48 am 
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$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X . . . . O O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . X O O O X . . . , . X X X . X . . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O . . . . . 2 . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , X O X O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . O . . O O O X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . X X O O . . . . X X 1 O X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . O O . . . O . O . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X O . . O . O . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . O O O X O . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . O X X O X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X O X . X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]


I don't think I have the time to connect. I would be happy to exchange being cut off from my bottom right stones for capturing B's M11 stones. He will probably save those stones though.

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Post #127 Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2016 2:16 pm 
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$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X . . . . O O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . X O O O X . . . , . X X X . X . . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O . . . . . 2 . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . 3 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , X O X O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . O . . O O O X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . X X O O . . . . X X 1 O X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . O O . . . O . O . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X O . . O . O . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . O O O X O . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . O X X O X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X O X . X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

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Post #128 Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 2:30 pm 
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$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X . . . . O O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . X O O O X . . . , . X X X . X . . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O . . . . . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X . 4 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , X O X O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . O . . O O O X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . X X O O . . . . X X 1 O X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . O O . . . O . O . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X O . . O . O . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . O O O X O . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . O X X O X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X O X . X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]


I think I will make some sente exchanges here, and then go back and protect the center with :b9: or something like it. The weakness in Blacks shape at "a" leaves some aji, even if Black gets the first move on the right afterwards.

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[go]$$Wcm1 :b3: :w1:
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X . . . . O O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . X O O O X . . . , . X X X a X . . . |
$$ | X O O . . . 9 . . . . . 5 7 . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O . . . . . O 2 6 8 X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X 3 1 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X 4 X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , X O X O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . O . . O O O X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . X X O O . . . . X X X O X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . O O . . . O . O . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X O . . O . O . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . O O O X O . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . O X X O X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X O X . X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

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Post #129 Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 5:18 pm 
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$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X . . . . O O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . X O O O X . . . , . X X X . X . . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O . . . . . O 5 . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X . 4 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , X O X O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . O . . O O O X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . X X O O . . . . X X 1 O X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . O O . . . O . O . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X O . . O . O . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . O O O X O . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . O X X O X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X O X . X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

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Post #130 Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 9:40 pm 
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$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X . . . . O O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . X O O O X . . . , . X X X . X . . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O . . . . . O 5 . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X 6 4 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , X O X O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . O . . O O O X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . X X O O . . . . X X 1 O X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . O O . . . O . O . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X O . . O . O . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . O O O X O . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . O X X O X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X O X . X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

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Post #131 Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 2:34 am 
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$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X . . . . O O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . X O O O X . . . , . X X X . X . . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O . . . . . O 5 . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X 6 4 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X 7 X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , X O X O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . O . . O O O X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . X X O O . . . . X X 1 O X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . O O . . . O . O . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X O . . O . O . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . O O O X O . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . O X X O X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X O X . X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

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Post #132 Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 10:12 pm 
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$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X . . . . O O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . X O O O X . . . , . X X X . X . . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . . . . . 8 . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O . . . . . O 5 . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X 6 4 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X 7 X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , X O X O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . O . . O O O X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . X X O O . . . . X X 1 O X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . O O . . . O . O . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X O . . O . O . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . O O O X O . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . O X X O X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X O X . X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

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Post #133 Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 7:08 am 
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$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X . . . . O O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . X O O O X . . . , . X X X . X . . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . . . . . 8 . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O . . . . 9 O 5 . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X 6 4 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X 7 X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , X O X O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . O . . O O O X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . X X O O . . . . X X 1 O X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . O O . . . O . O . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X O . . O . O . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . O O O X O . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . O X X O X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X O X . X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]


Interesting ... Obviously White assumes I'm forced to just extend here, but I'm not convinced. Let the fighting commence!

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[go]$$Bcm111 :b3: :w1:
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X . . . . O O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . X O O O X . . . , . X X X . X . . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . . . . 0 8 . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O . . . . 9 O 5 . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X 6 4 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X 7 X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , X O X O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . O . . O O O X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . X X O O . . . . X X 1 O X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . O O . . . O . O . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X O . . O . O . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . O O O X O . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . O X X O X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X O X . X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]


I was not expecting the cut. At first I thought I had made a huge mistake, but as I read it out, it doesn't seem to be too bad for me.


If we assume the following sequence, Black has a number of options of how to respond from here. Lets focus on a-d which seem like the most obvious choices.
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[go]$$Wcm1 :b3: :w1:
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X . . . . O O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . X O O O X . . . , . X X X d X . . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . . . 2 1 O 3 b . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O . . . . X O X . c X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O O a . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , X O X O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . O . . O O O X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . X X O O . . . . X X 1 O X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . O O . . . O . O . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X O . . O . O . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . O O O X O . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . O X X O X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X O X . X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]


First "a". Because 2 is an atari, and the ladder works, those two stones are easily expendable.
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[go]$$Bm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X . . . . O O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . X O O O X . . . , 2 X X X 3 X . . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . . . X O O O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O . . . 4 X O X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O O 1 . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , X O X O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . O . . O O O X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . X X O O . . . . X X X O X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . O O . . . O . O . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X O . . O . O . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . O O O X O . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . O X X O X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X O X . X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


If "b", then Black has to defend with 3 to prevent the ladder. I have some forcing moves in the center, so I think the situation is not all together hopeless. Maybe I can live or get a ko.
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[go]$$Bm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X . . . . O O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . X O O O X . . . , 3 X X X . X . . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . . . X O O O 1 . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O . . . . X O . 2 . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O O . 8 . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X X 4 . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . O X . 5 6 . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , X O X . 7 , . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . O . . O O O X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . X X O O . . . . X X X O X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . O O . . . O . O . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X O . . O . O . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . O O O X O . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . O X X O X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X O X . X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


The peep at "c" has the same fallback as "a", just let go of those two stones and ladder the stones on the outside.

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[go]$$Bm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X . . . . O O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . X O O O X . . . , 2 X X X 3 X . . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . . . X O O O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O . . . 4 X O X . 1 X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , X O X O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . O . . O O O X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . X X O O . . . . X X X O X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . O O . . . O . O . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X O . . O . O . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . O O O X O . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . O X X O X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X O X . X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



"d" is the hardest to deal with, because it eliminates a lot of the aji in the corner that might help me make life. After the sequence below, Black can spend another move on the side to keep White from getting more eyes, but White can the cut the two stones offin the center with "a".

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[go]$$Bm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X . . . . O O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . X O O O X . . . , a X X X 1 X . . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . . . X O O O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O . . . . X O X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O O 6 . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X X 2 . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . O X . 3 4 . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , X O X . 5 , . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . O . . O O O X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . X X O O . . . . X X X O X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . O O . . . O . O . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X O . . O . O . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . O O O X O . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . O X X O X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X O X . X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



In conclusion, I hope this fight works out for me, because if it doesn't the game is over.

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$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X . . . . O O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . X O O O X . . . , . X X X . X . . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . . . 1 O O . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O . . . . X O X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , X O X O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . O . . O O O X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . X X O O . . . . X X X O X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . O O . . . O . O . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X O . . O . O . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . O O O X O . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . O X X O X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X O X . X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]


Mmm, this is a popcorn moment... I suppose I should double check my reading, as he's going straight ahead with something that I thought just died

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$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X . . . . O O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . X O O O X . . . , . X X X . X . . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . . . X O O 2 . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O . . . . X O X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , X O X O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . O . . O O O X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . X X O O . . . . X X X O X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . O O . . . O . O . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X O . . O . O . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . O O O X O . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . O X X O X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X O X . X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

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$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X . . . . O O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . X O O O X . . . , 5 X X X . X . . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . . . X O O 2 3 . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O . . . . X O C 4 . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , X O X O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . O . . O O O X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . X X O O . . . . X X X O X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . O O . . . O . O . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X O . . O . O . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . O O O X O . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . O X X O X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X O X . X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

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$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X . . . . O O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . X O O O X . . . , X X X X . X . . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . . . X O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O . . . . X O . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O O . 0 . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X X 6 . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . O X C 7 8 . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , X O X C 9 , . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . O . . O O O X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . X X O O . . . . X X X O X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . O O . . . O . O . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X O . . O . O . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . O O O X O . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . O X X O X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X O X . X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X . . . . O O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . X O O O X . . . , X X X X . X . . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . . . X O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O . . . . X O . O . X 1 . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . O X . X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , X O X . X , . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . O . . O O O X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . X X O O . . . . X X X O X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . O O . . . O . O . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X O . . O . O . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . O O O X O . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . O X X O X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X O X . X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]


All as per reading so far .... wondering where the mistake is ... tense stuff!

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$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X . . . . O O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . X O O O X . . . , X X X X . X . . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . . . X O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O . . . . X O . O . X 1 . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O O . O 2 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . O X . X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , X O X . X , . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . O . . O O O X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . X X O O . . . . X X X O X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . O O . . . O . O . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X O . . O . O . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . O O O X O . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . O X X O X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X O X . X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]


This is probably the best I can do, but it is not looking good.

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