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Offline Loons
 Post subject: Re: #68 Redundant vs Loons, 9x9
Post #41 Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 4:37 pm 
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[go]$$Bm11
$$ +-------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . , O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O X O X X . |
$$ | . . O X X X O X . |
$$ | . . O . . . O X . |
$$ | . . 8 X , . , . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +-------------------+[/go]

After deep and studious thought, I came to the conclusion that this endgame is still too hard for me. Easy moves!
I overestimated my own patience and diligence. If he has seen anything at all that I haven't, I won't win. I think white can try to win with more points, but the push allows black to try and make some sort of complication; if he reckons himself ahead it will be easier to end the game. If he really is ahead... Oh well.


Edit: Also disclaimer; I don't know any limericks, and maybe doing it wrong.

Of our ranks here mine comes second class
Some stones of mine're already glassed
But though they look white;
that's temp'rary fright.
You'll find soon that they're actually brass!

And now I'm quitting poeming.

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Offline Redundant
 Post subject: Re: #68 Redundant vs Loons, 9x9
Post #42 Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 8:53 pm 
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BRB writing a limerick

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Offline Redundant
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Post #43 Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 2:55 pm 
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Sorry but no poem ... instead have the song (actually only about half of it) I listened to while playing this move.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tV83U4CDAx4


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[go]$$Bm11
$$ +-------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . , O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O X O X X . |
$$ | . . O X X X O X . |
$$ | . . O . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O X , . , . . |
$$ | . . . 9 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +-------------------+[/go]

Protecting the cut. Depending on what he does here, I'll draw up some plans.
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Offline Loons
 Post subject: Re: #68 Redundant vs Loons, 9x9
Post #44 Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 3:14 pm 
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[go]$$Bm11
$$ +-------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . 0 . . . |
$$ | . . , O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O X O X X . |
$$ | . . O X X X O X . |
$$ | . . O . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O X , . , . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +-------------------+[/go]


Ominous music, though I think anything becomes ominous when you give it a backdrop of nuclear tests.
Unhid this. Mind games.
Forgot all my figuring for this game; Looks quite big.

Edit: this move was wrong, and I regret it hugely. I believe C2 was correct. I think I may be able to eke out a one point win still.

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Offline Redundant
 Post subject: Re: #68 Redundant vs Loons, 9x9
Post #45 Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 4:14 pm 
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The nuclear backdrop is the idea of the person who made the video, and not a part of the actual song.

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[go]$$Bm21
$$ +-------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . , O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O X O X X . |
$$ | . . O X X X O X . |
$$ | . . O . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O X , . , . . |
$$ | . . 1 X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +-------------------+[/go]

He's right in that normal endgame is not enough here, so I'm going to try to attach to white 20 and get a ko. First I'll take my sente endgame here, though.
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Offline Loons
 Post subject: Re: #68 Redundant vs Loons, 9x9
Post #46 Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 4:47 pm 
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[go]$$Bm21
$$ +-------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . , O . . O 2 . |
$$ | . . . O X O X X . |
$$ | . . O X X X O X . |
$$ | . . O . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O X , . , . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +-------------------+[/go]


Well, an interesting listen, anyways.

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Offline Redundant
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Post #47 Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 9:42 pm 
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[go]$$Bm21
$$ +-------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . , O . . O O . |
$$ | . . . O X O X X . |
$$ | . . O X X X O X . |
$$ | . . O . . . O X . |
$$ | . 1 O X , . , . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +-------------------+[/go]


This move is brought to you by vodka ... plus this somewhat odd song. Although it (the song) ended during the compostition of this post.

On a totally tangential, but coincidental note, this band is the one that I listened to during the initial iteration of our game.
take his points, get some of my own. Pretty straightforward ... although I haven't calculated out the endgame. I should really learn to do that sometime.
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Offline Loons
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Post #48 Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 11:15 pm 
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[go]$$Bm21
$$ +-------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . , O . . O O . |
$$ | . . . O X O X X . |
$$ | . . O X X X O X . |
$$ | . . O 4 . . O X . |
$$ | . X O X , . , . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +-------------------+[/go]


My go music remains and will always remain Cake's album Fashion Nugget.

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Post #49 Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 11:52 pm 
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[go]$$Bm21
$$ +-------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . , O . . O O . |
$$ | . . . O X O X X . |
$$ | . . O X X X O X . |
$$ | . . O O 5 . O X . |
$$ | . X O X , . , . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +-------------------+[/go]


Responding to your Falcon Jab
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Offline Loons
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Post #50 Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 12:21 am 
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[go]$$Bm21
$$ +-------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . , O . . O O . |
$$ | . . . O X O X X . |
$$ | . . O X X X O X . |
$$ | . 6 O O X . O X . |
$$ | . X O X , . , . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +-------------------+[/go]


Mind liberating*.

*Insofaras mind liberating just means trippy.

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Offline Redundant
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Post #51 Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 8:39 am 
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[go]$$Bm21
$$ +-------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . , O . 7 O O . |
$$ | . . . O X . X X . |
$$ | . . O X X X O X . |
$$ | . O O O X . O X . |
$$ | . X O X , . , . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +-------------------+[/go]


We're area scoring, right? I'm too lazy to keep track of prisoners.
Threatens a ko for the corner.
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Offline Loons
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Post #52 Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 2:08 pm 
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[go]$$Bm21
$$ +-------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . , O 8 X O O . |
$$ | . . . O X . X X . |
$$ | . . O X X X O X . |
$$ | . O O O X . O X . |
$$ | . X O X , . , . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +-------------------+[/go]


Yeah, area.

Winning that ko is essentially my sente.

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Post #53 Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 3:52 pm 
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[go]$$Bm21
$$ +-------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . , O O X O O . |
$$ | . . . O X . X X . |
$$ | . . O X X X O X . |
$$ | . O O O X . O X . |
$$ | . X O X , . , . . |
$$ | . 9 X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +-------------------+[/go]
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Post #54 Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 4:12 pm 
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[go]$$Bm21
$$ +-------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . , O O X O O . |
$$ | . 0 . O X . X X . |
$$ | . . O X X X O X . |
$$ | . O O O X . O X . |
$$ | . X O X , . , . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +-------------------+[/go]


Well, someone has certainly won.

Please be me. Please be me. Please be me.

Oops, my counting a while ago was wrong. It's black by 2.


On a related note; when did you start winning ?

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Post #55 Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 5:04 pm 
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I think I started winning when I realized that you have no ko threats.
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[go]$$Bm31
$$ +-------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . , O O X O O 1 |
$$ | . O . O X . X X . |
$$ | . . O X X X O X . |
$$ | . O O O X . O X . |
$$ | . X O X , . , . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +-------------------+[/go]
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Post #56 Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 5:13 pm 
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[go]$$Bm31
$$ +-------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . 4 2 |
$$ | . . , O O X O O 1 |
$$ | . O . O X . X X 3 |
$$ | 6 . O X X X O X . |
$$ | 5 O O O X . O X . |
$$ | 7 X O X , . , . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +-------------------+[/go]


Yes, that would be the crux of the matter.

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Post #57 Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 5:23 pm 
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Woops, ... thought I could cut after 2. Wow, I just realized that I was counting the whole time in territory scoring, which is a little funny given that we haven't been taking account of prisoners.

BTW, did you pass your move there? I'm going to assume so.

Thanks for the game! This has been awesome.


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[go]$$Bm31
$$ +-------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . O O |
$$ | . . , O O X O O X |
$$ | . O . O X 9 X X X |
$$ | O . O X X X O X . |
$$ | X O O O X . O X . |
$$ | X X O X , . , . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +-------------------+[/go]
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Post #58 Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 5:31 pm 
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Yeah, fun times, thanks.

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