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Post #21 Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2021 9:41 am 
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Post #23 Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2021 2:51 pm 
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Post #25 Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 2:40 am 
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I wonder what are yours and other people thoughts about this position, but guess it is too early to talk about it ;)

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Short answer:

I don't know where to play.


Long answer:

I don't think one of us is significantly ahead at this point, however I need to decide in which direction I want to drive the game. Black has connected his stones, and I made a shape which is not yet alive but difficult to kill. In principle I could tenuki
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and Black's moyo is looking scary. Maybe not scary for strong players but for me, yes.

Another option is reduction at the border of the moyo:
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[go]$$Bcm19
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This look playable but I might fight at a disadvantage due to Black's thickness at the top right. The problem is that if Black plays "a" then I fell forced to play at "b".

Or maybe invade right now and live if I can?
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A bit dangerous though.


Or a shoulder hit?
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Leaves a weak point around a.

Or maybe a light reduction which is loosely connected to bottom right white group?
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This feels a bit lukewarm and gives Black solid points. On the other hand, White can now tenuki and make a shimari on the bottom left. But Black may go for this:

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I don't know if the fight is good or not. Hard to choose. I need to make a decision though.


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[go]$$Bcm21
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Post #31 Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 9:45 am 
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Hmmm, I have second thoughts, so probably it was a mistake. Still if White gives me 5 line territory, guess it would be better for me.

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So he doesn't cut? Let's extend then. He gets territory while I am strengthening my position.


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I really want to tenuki at C6 but don't want to get hane'd at the head of two stones either.

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At last I can tenuki. My central group is stable enough for now.


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To be honest, that was the plan at the beginning, but I decided that maybe taking fifth line territory should be also good. Probably that wasn't true, because the wall seems really strong now, but lets say I wanted to try something different than normal (I play too much blitz games, where fighting starts real soon).

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