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 Post subject: Re: #268 Gorim vs jlt
Post #61 Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2021 3:48 am 
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I don't know which answer is best between

First answer:

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[go]$$Bcm51
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . , . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . 6 O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 5 O X X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . 3 O . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . 4 . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . O . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . X . X X X . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Second answer:

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[go]$$Bcm51
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . , . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . 6 O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 5 O X X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . 3 O 4 O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . O . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


The first answer puts more pressure on the cutting stones, however it doesn't threaten to capture :b53: in a ladder. The second answer threatens the following continuation:

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[go]$$Bcm53
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . , . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . O X 7 8 . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . O X 6 X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X O 4 5 . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . X O 2 O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . O . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


On the other hand, he has a continuation like this

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[go]$$Bcm53
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . , . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . 5 O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . 7 6 O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . 3 O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 4 O X X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . X O 2 O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . O . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This looks messy. I could avoid this with this response

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[go]$$Bcm53
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . , . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 2 O X X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . X . 3 O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . 5 4 O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . O . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


My moyo on the top would look quite big but giving Black a ponnuki close to my eyeless wall is a bit dangerous.


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[go]$$Bcm53
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . , . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . X O 2 O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . O . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #62 Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2021 11:38 am 
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[go]$$Bcm53
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . , . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 3 O X X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . X O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . O . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #63 Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2021 11:49 am 
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[go]$$Bcm55
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . , . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . 2 O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O X X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . X O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . O . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #64 Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2021 12:40 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm55
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . O . . X . . |
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$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . O O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O X X O 3 . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . X O O O X . . . . |
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$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . O . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #65 Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2021 3:01 pm 
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I need to watch liberties. If play elsewhere, something like this could happen

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[go]$$Bcm57
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . 4 3 O . . X . . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . , . 6 O X . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . 7 5 O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . c . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . a 8 O O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . b X O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . O . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Black can't play at "a" since White has a double atari at "b" but this possibility might disappear later. White still has the possibility to get out with "c" but this is bad shape and the whole group will suffer.

On the other hand I don't want to protect passively, as my central group will come under attack:

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[go]$$Bcm57
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . , . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . 2 . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . O O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . X O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , 3 . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . O . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


It will not die, but may suffer in the process. What is the point of having a big wall if I need to live wih 2 points with great effort?

I want to play close to this line in a way which threatens the cut K11 and which is reasonably connected to the wall.

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[go]$$Bcm57
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . , . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . C . . . . . O O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . C . . . X O X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . C . . . X O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . C . , . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . C . . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . C . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . C . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . C O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . O . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Bcm57
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . , . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . O O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . X O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 2 . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . O . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #66 Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2021 3:10 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm57
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . , . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . O O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . X O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . 3 . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . O . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Hmmm, why let me make this move? I feel like I will be able to erase this "moyo" now.

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Post #67 Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 10:21 am 
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[go]$$Bcm59
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . , . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . O O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . X O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 2 O . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . |
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I don't really know what is the best answer. I'll just follow the principle not to push from behind.

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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Don't want to get hane'd at the head of two stones.


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After second thought, I wonder if I should have hane'd myself. Too late anyway.

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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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Post #75 Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:37 am 
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I can consider to extend or to tenuki, but is it too soft?

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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Let's try to take the risk.

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[go]$$Bcm67
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . O . . X . . |
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$$ | . X O . . . . . . . O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X O O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . X O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . 2 X X X . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 3 O O O X . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 4 . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . O . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . X . X X X . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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$$ ---------------------------------------
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . O . . X . . |
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$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X O O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . X O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . 2 X X X . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O O O X . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . O . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . , . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X O O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . 3 . . . X O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O X X X . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O O O X . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . O . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . X . X X X . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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Post #77 Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:23 am 
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . O . . X . . |
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$$ | . . X . . . X . . . X O O O X . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . 2 O O O X . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . O . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . X . X X X . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Double hane was not possible

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[go]$$Bcm69
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . O . . X . . |
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$$ | . X O . . . . . . . O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X O O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . 2 X . . . X O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . 4 O X X X . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 3 O O O X . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . 5 O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . O . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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Post #78 Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:38 am 
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . O . . X . . |
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$$ | . X O . . . . . . . O . O X . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . 3 X . . . X O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O X X X . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O O O X . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . O . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Well, this feels like I got too good result here, erased much of white influence and the left side group wasn't attacked in any harsh way either. I think white should be more aggressive here.

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