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 Post subject: Re: #137 Banaan vs Chewtoy
Post #41 Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 1:29 pm 
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Doesn't looks miai for me :

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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #42 Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 1:52 pm 
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W atari!

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[go]$$Wcm28 :b100: :w100:
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . X . O X O X . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O X 1 . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #43 Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 6:33 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm28 :b100: :w100:
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O . O O X . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O X 1 . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #44 Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 6:45 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm28 :b100: :w100:
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . X . O X O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O X 1 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 X 3 . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #45 Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 9:17 pm 
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I'm looking forward to having a choice with my move... :P
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[go]$$Wcm28 :b100: :w100:
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O . O O X . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O X 1 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 X 3 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O 4 . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #46 Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 3:52 am 
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . X . O X O X 5 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O X 1 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 X 3 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O 4 . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


You always have a choice :D

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Post #47 Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:49 am 
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Well, yes. Technically, yes. :)

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[go]$$Wcm28 :b100: :w100:
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . X . O X O X 5 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O X 1 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 X 3 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O 4 . . |
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$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Now S18 is looking stupid. I need to practice my analysis more!! I don't expect to keep these stones, but this move gives me some more flexibility I think. The end goal now is to seal white into the corner and connect my two groups. Actually, I guess that was the main objective before. Only now I've given white 25-30 points in the corner. Will my influence balance white's profit?

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Post #48 Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 8:22 am 
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[go]$$Wcm34 :b100: :w100:
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . X . O X O X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I think this is the only move. Either this, or s17. After some reading i decided this one is the better move. W cannot play s17 (W s17 - B r19), so this is the key point.

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Post #49 Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 8:52 am 
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[go]$$B
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 8 . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 7 6 1 3 O X 9 X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O 4 O O X 0 . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . X . O X O X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 O X X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Looks good for black.

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Post #50 Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 9:25 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm34 :b100: :w100:
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O . O O X 2 . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . X . O X O X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
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$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Is white going to give me a ko?

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Post #51 Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 11:23 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm34 :b100: :w100:
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O . O O X 2 . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . X . O X O X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
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$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #52 Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 1:41 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm34 :b100: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 3 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O . O O X 2 . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . X . O X O X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
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$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


The corner is most likely going to die, but I can get a little more aji out of it if I descend I think. Alternatively, white could tenuki and let me live in gote, but that looks like too many points for white to relinquish.

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Post #53 Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 3:26 am 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 4 3 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O . O O X 2 . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . X . O X O X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
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$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #54 Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 5:57 am 
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 4 3 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 X 6 X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O . O O X 2 . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . X . O X O X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #55 Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 7:01 am 
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Hmmm... If White tries to kill the corner, :b2: and then :b8: look like vital points. Is White captured here?
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[go]$$Wc :w7: connects at :b2:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O 6 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 . O X X X 5 |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O . O O X X 1 |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . X . O X O X O 2 |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X O O 3 |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O X O . 8 |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This ends in temporary seki but White is dead on the left.
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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O X X X O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O . O O X X O |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . X . O X O X O O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X O O O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O X O 1 X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O 3 |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X 2 4 |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


White has to escape on the right, but dies on the left?
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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 O X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O X X X O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O 5 O O X X O |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . X 8 O X O X O O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 O X X O O O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O X O 7 X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X 1 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


:b8: can not be at "a" else Black will be unable to play at "b" due to shortage of liberties.
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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 8 7 a b O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 6 5 4 . O X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O . O O X X 1 |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . X . O X O X O 2 |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X O O 3 |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


White can not win from this side...
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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O 7 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 4 3 5 . O X X X 6 |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O . O O X X 1 |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . X . O X O X O 2 |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X O O 8 |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O X O 9 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X 0 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #56 Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 11:11 am 
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[go]$$Wcm34 :b100: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 4 3 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 X 6 X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O . O O X 2 7 |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . X . O X O X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


No other choice!

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Post #57 Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 2:13 pm 
Dies in gote

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[go]$$Wcm34 :b1: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 4 . 8 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 X 6 X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O . O O X 2 7 |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . X . O X O X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I am giving white a chance to be peaceful, but after this...

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[go]$$Wcm42 :b1: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . B . O X X X 1 |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O . O O X X O |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . X . O X O X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |[/go]

I will have 3 liberties...and I can start a ko with the marked stone.

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Post #58 Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 2:46 pm 
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I'm thinking about resigning, black lives and one of my groups dies, white is far behind. But I'll give the choice to you, I could try to fight back some more moves or resign.

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Post #59 Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 2:59 pm 
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Well, I thought there was a ko fight.
But I am feeling confident with black's position.
Up to you.

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Post #60 Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 2:17 am 
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I dont see the kofight, and even if there was, there are no threats :)

So, I resign! thanks for the game.

I'll never play move 12 again ^__^

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