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#159 - opex vs Nome
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Author:  Nome [ Wed Apr 04, 2012 9:52 am ]
Post subject:  Re: #159 - opex vs Nome

So, I don't think this move requires to much explanation, but I want to go over my last move.

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Essentially, I considered continuing playing in the bottom left part in the board with either a or b. I think the point A is pretty big for either player, and I would like to get sente at some point so that I can come back and play it. The cut at B seems interesting, but I don't really know how I could follow it up. I know that trying to kill that white group is probably the wrong idea, so I want to attack it for profit, but I don't think I can at this point. If white takes the time to come back and fix the cut, I will get to play a free move elsewhere.

Ultimately, my groups seem strong enough in the bottom left that I can invade up top. 3-3 seems the simplest so that's what I chose.


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Author:  opex [ Thu Apr 05, 2012 1:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: #159 - opex vs Nome

Hane at the head of two stones cannot be bad :)
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Author:  Nome [ Thu Apr 05, 2012 7:40 am ]
Post subject:  Re: #159 - opex vs Nome

Not much to say here.


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Author:  opex [ Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:26 am ]
Post subject:  Re: #159 - opex vs Nome

Don't allow atari
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Author:  Nome [ Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: #159 - opex vs Nome

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Author:  opex [ Sat Apr 07, 2012 1:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: #159 - opex vs Nome

Well, can't decide between b13 and c13. c13 is joseki, but having c12 in place, it feels overconcentrated. But with b13 some complications may occur soon...
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Author:  Nome [ Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:01 am ]
Post subject:  Re: #159 - opex vs Nome

still not much to say


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Author:  opex [ Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:38 am ]
Post subject:  Re: #159 - opex vs Nome

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Author:  Nome [ Tue Apr 10, 2012 11:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: #159 - opex vs Nome

He will protect the cut, and then I will play E8 like I've been wanting to. I don't think he can afford to leave the cut.


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Author:  opex [ Wed Apr 11, 2012 11:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: #159 - opex vs Nome

定石です (jouseki desu) :)
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Author:  Nome [ Thu Apr 12, 2012 11:34 am ]
Post subject:  Re: #159 - opex vs Nome

As I mentioned earlier, I feel like this move is really big for both white and black, so I am going to take. I feel like I still have a lead in this game, so I am not going to try anything drastic. I'll probably try counting the score in the next few turns, but I am currently feeling kind of lazy and I am sitting in a class.



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Author:  opex [ Fri Apr 13, 2012 2:27 am ]
Post subject:  Re: #159 - opex vs Nome

I'll venture to connect that stone to steal some territory. Now it's time for him to attack the g5 group.
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Author:  topazg [ Fri Apr 13, 2012 4:23 am ]
Post subject:  Re: #159 - opex vs Nome

Have either of you done a score count recent? If so, what's you strategy around it?

Author:  opex [ Tue Apr 24, 2012 1:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: #159 - opex vs Nome

I wonder what happened to Nome.. He hasn't been here for a week already

topazg, i haven't :)

Author:  opex [ Wed May 23, 2012 10:23 am ]
Post subject:  Re: #159 - opex vs Nome

May i claim timeout and read hidden comments? :)

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