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 Post subject: Re: 165 LexC vs EdLee
Post #201 Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:37 pm 
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Bill Spight wrote:
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[go]$$Bm121 Captures:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . 7 5 3 X O O . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . X X . 6 4 2 X O . O . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X X . X . . X X O . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . X O 1 O . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . O X O . . . X O . . . . O . . . X . |
$$ | . O X O X X . . X X . . . . . X X X O |
$$ | . . O X X O . . . . . . O . . X O O . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . O . . . . O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . X . O X . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . X . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . X . O X . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O O X . X . . . . X . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . X . . . . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . X . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X . O . O . . O . . . X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . O . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]


I think that Black can get away with :b21:.

i was thinking same thing :)

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Post #202 Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 1:27 am 
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[go]$$Wm122 Captures: :b1: :w1:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . X O O . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X O . O . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X X . X . . X X O . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . X O , O . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . O X O . . . X O . . . . O . . . X . |
$$ | . O X O X X . . X X 1 . . . . X X X O |
$$ | . . O X X O . . . . . . O . . X O O . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . O . . . . O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . X . O X . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . X . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . X . O X . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O O X . X . . . . X . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . X . . . . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . X . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X . O . O . . O . . . X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . O . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #203 Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 3:16 am 
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White has a problem here, should have bambooed.

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[go]$$Bm123 Captures: :b1: :w1:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . X O O b 0 8 2 O X X . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X O a O 9 7 1 O X . . |
$$ | . X X X . X . . X X O c . O . O X . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . X O 6 O . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . O X O . . . X O 5 3 4 . O . . . X . |
$$ | . O X O X X . . X X O . . . . X X X O |
$$ | . . O X X O . . . . . . O . . X O O . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . O . . . . O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . X . O X . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . X . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . X . O X . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O O X . X . . . . X . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . X . . . . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . X . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X . O . O . . O . . . X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . O . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]


So probably what should happen (locally, could be bigger moves elsewhere):

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[go]$$Bm123 Good yose
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . X O O . . . 2 O X X . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X O . O . . 1 O X . . |
$$ | . X X X . X . . X X O . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . X O 9 O 6 . . . O O X . |
$$ | . O X O . . . X O 5 3 4 . O . . . X . |
$$ | . O X O X X . . X X O 8 . . . X X X O |
$$ | . . O X X O . . . . 7 . O . . X O O . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . O . . . . O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . X . O X . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . X . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . X . O X . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O O X . X . . . . X . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . X . . . . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . X . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X . O . O . . O . . . X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . O . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]


My guess of what will happen, giving white at least 3 more points than he deserves (black also makes some harder to count gain in squared area in the good sequence):

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[go]$$Bm123 Bad yose
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . X O O . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X O . O . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X X . X . . X X O . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . X O 1 O T . . . O O X . |
$$ | . O X O . . . X O 3 2 T . O . . . X . |
$$ | . O X O X X . . X X O T . . . X X X O |
$$ | . . O X X O . . . S . . O . . X O O . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . O . . . . O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . X . O X . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . X . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . X . O X . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O O X . X . . . . X . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . X . . . . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . X . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X . O . O . . O . . . X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . O . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #204 Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 3:50 am 
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[go]$$Bm123 Captures: :b1: :w1:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . X O O . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X O . O . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X X . X . . X X O . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . X O , O . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . O X O . . . X O . . . . O . . . X . |
$$ | . O X O X X . . X X O . . . . X X X O |
$$ | . . O X X O . . . . . . O . . X O O . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . O . . . . O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . X . O X . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . X . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . X . O X . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O O X . X . . . . X . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . X . . . . . X O O . |
$$ | . . 1 . . . . . X O . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . X . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X . O . O . . O . . . X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . O . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

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[go]$$Bm123 Captures: :b1: :w1:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . X O O . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X O . O . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X X . X . . X X O . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . X O 5 O . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . O X O . . . X O . . . . O . . . X . |
$$ | . O X O X X . . X X O . . . . X X X O |
$$ | . . O X X O . . . . . . O . . X O O . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . O . . . . O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . X . O X . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . X . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . X . O X . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O O X . X . . . . X . . X . X O . |
$$ | . 4 3 . X . . . . X . . . . . X O O . |
$$ | . 2 1 . . . . . X O . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . X . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X . O . O . . O . . . X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . O . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #205 Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 3:54 am 
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Interesting. Knee-jerk reaction is just to block. But, too sleepy; will study later, then read his Trigger.

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Post #206 Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 3:46 am 
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Trigger accepted:
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[go]$$Bm123 Captures: :b1: :w1:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . X O O . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X O . O . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X X . X . . X X O . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . X O 5 O . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . O X O . . . X O . . . . O . . . X . |
$$ | . O X O X X . . X X O . . . . X X X O |
$$ | . . O X X O . . . . . . O . . X O O . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . O . . . . O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . X . O X . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . X . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . X . O X . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O O X . X . . . . X . . X . X O . |
$$ | . 4 3 . X . . . . X . . . . . X O O . |
$$ | . 2 1 . . . . . X O . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . X . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X . O . O . . O . . . X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . O . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

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[go]$$Wm128 Captures: :b1: :w1:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . X O O . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X O . O . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X X . X . . X X O . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . X O X O . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . O X O . . . X O . 1 . . O . . . X . |
$$ | . O X O X X . . X X O . . . . X X X O |
$$ | . . O X X O . . . . . . O . . X O O . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . O . . . . O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . X . O X . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . X . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . X . O X . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O O X . X . . . . X . . X . X O . |
$$ | . O X . X . . . . X . . . . . X O O . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . X O . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . X . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X . O . O . . O . . . X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . O . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]
If :w1: tenuki...
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[go]$$W :w1: tenuki
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . X O O . 9 7 5 O X X . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X O 0 O 8 6 4 O X . . |
$$ | . X X X . X . . X X O . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . X O X O . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . O X O . . . X O . 2 3 . O . . . X . |
$$ | . O X O X X . . X X O . . . . X X X O |
$$ | . . O X X O . . . . . . O . . X O O . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . O . . . . O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . X . O X . . X O . . |[/go]
...then :w13: cannot fill at :b10: (connect-and-die):
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[go]$$Bm10
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . X O O 2 O O O O X X . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X O 1 O X X X O X . . |
$$ | . X X X . X . . X X O 3 . O . O X . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . X O X O . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . O X O . . . X O . X O . O . . . X . |
$$ | . O X O X X . . X X O . . . . X X X O |
$$ | . . O X X O . . . . . . O . . X O O . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . O . . . . O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . X . O X . . X O . . |[/go]

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Post #208 Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:08 am 
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[go]$$B129 Captures: :b1: :w1:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . X O O . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X O . O . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X X . X . . X X O . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . X O X O . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . O X O . . . X O . O . . O . . . X . |
$$ | . O X O X X . . X X O . . . . X X X O |
$$ | . . O X X O . . . . . . O . . X O O . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . O . . . . O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . X . O X . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . 1 . . O . . . . . X . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . X . O X . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O O X . X . . . . X . . X . X O . |
$$ | . O X . X . . . . X . . . . . X O O . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . X O . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . X . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X . O . O . . O . . . X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . O . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Bc129 Captures: :b1: :w1:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . X O O . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X O . O . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X X . X . . X X O . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . X O X O . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . O X O . . . X O . O . . O . . . X . |
$$ | . O X O X X . . X X O . . . . X X X O |
$$ | . . O X X O . . . . . . O . . X O O . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . O . . . . O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . X . O X . . X O . . |
$$ | . . 2 1 . . O . . . . . X . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . X . O X . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O O X . X . . . . X . . X . X O . |
$$ | . O X . X . . . . X . . . . . X O O . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . X O . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . X . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | 3 O X X . X . O . O . . O . . . X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . O . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]


In trigger white 3 is reverse sente so it's 5 points cash taking at k15 is 4 points in double gote so there is only half chance to take it so it worth only 2 points As I counted the game is very close

white can ignore black 1
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[go]$$B129 Captures: :b1: :w1:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . X O O . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X O . O . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X X . X . . X X O . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . X O X O . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . O X O . . . X O 2 O . . O . . . X . |
$$ | . O X O X X . . X X O . . . . X X X O |
$$ | . . O X X O . . . . . . O . . X O O . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . O . . . . O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . X . O X . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . X . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . X . O X . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O O X . X . . . . X . . X . X O . |
$$ | . O X . X . . . . X . . . . . X O O . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . X O . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . X . . , . . . . . X . 5 . |
$$ | . O X X . X . O . O . . O . 1 . X 4 6 |
$$ | . X . . . . O . . . . . . . 3 O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]


white can't ignore this black 1
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[go]$$B129 Captures: :b1: :w1:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . X O O . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X O . O . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X X . X . . X X O . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . X O X O . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . O X O . . . X O 2 O . . O . . . X . |
$$ | . O X O X X . . X X O . . . . X X X O |
$$ | . . O X X O . . . . . . O . . X O O . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . O . . . . O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . X . O X . . X O . . |
$$ | . 4 3 1 . . O . . . . . X . . . X O . |
$$ | . 5 . . X . O X . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O O X . X . . . . X . . X . X O . |
$$ | . O X . X . . . . X . . . . . X O O . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . X O . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . X . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X . O . O . . O . . . X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . O . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #209 Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:56 am 
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I don't understand the triggered move. For one thing the descent is better because it doesn't give white the throw-in, for another the kosumi in the first analysis diagram seems pretty clearly sente?

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Post #210 Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 5:45 am 
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Again, sleep time. Will think about blocking, then read trigger.

A little consolation that even with the 7 :bt: stones, B still has not captured :wc::
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[go]$$B
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . X O O . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X O . O . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X X . X . . Y Y O . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . Y W Y O . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . O X O . . . Y W . O . . O . . . X . |
$$ | . O X O X X . . Y Y O . . . . X X X O |
$$ | . . O X X O . . . . . . O . . X O O . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . O . . . . O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . X . O X . . X O . . |[/go]

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Post #211 Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 7:36 am 
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@Ed: when did you find that weakness at the top, before or after move 122?

Black could have used that aji to play better than he did. As those shapes have settled, both players can now read my post #203.

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Post #212 Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 12:38 pm 
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Uberdude,
Uberdude wrote:
@Ed: when did you find that weakness at the top, before or after move 122?
Black could have used that aji to play better than he did. As those shapes have settled, both players can now read my post #203.
See my post #199. Also, I think your post #203 can still affect the endgame, so IMO we should not be reading it yet.

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Post #213 Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 12:55 pm 
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Ah yes, good stuff, that's what I get for randomly dropping by in the middle of a Malkovich game ;-)

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Uberdude,
It's OK...I've done much worse. :oops:

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[go]$$Wm130 Captures: :b1: :w1:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . X O O . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X O . O . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X X . X . . X X O . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . X O X O . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . O X O . . . X O . O . . O . . . X . |
$$ | . O X O X X . . X X O . . . . X X X O |
$$ | . . O X X O . . . . . . O . . X O O . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . O . . . . O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . X . O X . . X O . . |
$$ | . . 1 X . . O . . . . . X . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . X . O X . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O O X . X . . . . X . . X . X O . |
$$ | . O X . X . . . . X . . . . . X O O . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . X O . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . X . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X . O . O . . O . . . X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . O . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #216 Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 3:24 am 
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LexC, sorry -- I didn't see your trigger until now! I was waiting for you. :) OK, my turn!
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[go]$$Bm131 Captures: :b1: :w1:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . X O O . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X O . O . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X X . X . . X X O . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . X O X O . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . O X O . . . X O . O . . O . . . X . |
$$ | . O X O X X . . X X O . . . . X X X O |
$$ | . . O X X O . . . . . . O . . X O O . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . O . . . . O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . X . O X . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . O . . . . . X . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . X . O X . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O O X . X . . . . X . . X . X O . |
$$ | . O X . X . . . . X . . . . . X O O . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . X O . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . X . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | 1 O X X . X . O . O . . O . . . X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . O . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #217 Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 3:27 am 
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That looks like a rare "basic sequences" error from Ed to me:

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[go]$$Bm131 Captures: :b1: :w1:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . X O O . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X O . O . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X X . X . . X X O . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . X O X O . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . O X O . . . X O . O . . O . . . X . |
$$ | . O X O X X . . X X O . . . . X X X O |
$$ | . . O X X O . . . . . . O . . X O O . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . O . . . . O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . X . O X . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . O . . . . . X . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . X . O X . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O O X . X . . . . X . . X . X O . |
$$ | . O X . X . . . . X . . . . . X O O . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . X O . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | 4 O O X . . X . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | 1 O X X . X . O . O . . O . . . X . . |
$$ | 2 X . . . . O . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]


Normal endgame is to play :b31: @ :w32: ... however, even then it looks pretty small (in gote), so I wonder if he has another plan up his sleeve.

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Post #218 Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 3:41 am 
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EdLee is White :) That's LexC's trigger.

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Post #219 Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:21 am 
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@Intrepid:

Hahaha, whoops - I didn't think Ed would be unaware of that .. Sorry Ed!

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Post #220 Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 1:18 am 
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Uberdude wrote:
Black could have used that aji to play better than he did. As those shapes have settled, both players can now read my post #203.

Nice sequence

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