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 Post subject: Re: #179 - DJLLAP vs opex
Post #161 Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 1:10 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm110 Captures: b - 1, w - 7.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . X O . . X X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . O . O . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . 2 1 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . O . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . X O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . O . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X X O X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . O X O . O . O X . O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X O O O O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X X X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . O X O X . . O O |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X O . O X X . . O . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . O X . O O . O |
$$ | . . O O . X X . . , X . X O O O . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . X O X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . X O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



Life for both of us. Gives me a pretty huge corner. according to my counting that puts me around 80 points of solid territory to W's 50 I should be able to make the left side relatively small, so I feel optimistic about winning this game.


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[go]$$Wcm110 Captures: b - 1, w - 7.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . X O . . X X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . O . O 3 4 . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . 5 2 1 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . O . . X O 6 . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . X O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . O . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X X O X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . O X O . O . O X . O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X O O O O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X X X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . O X O X . . O O |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X O . O X X . . O . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . O X . O O . O |
$$ | . . O O . X X . . , X . X O O O . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . X O X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . X O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #162 Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 1:56 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm112 Captures: b - 1, w - 7.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . X O . . X X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . O . O 1 . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . O . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . X O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . O . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X X O X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . O X O . O . O X . O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X O O O O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X X X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . O X O X . . O O |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X O . O X X . . O . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . O X . O O . O |
$$ | . . O O . X X . . , X . X O O O . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . X O X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . X O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
The only move

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Post #163 Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 1:57 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm112 Captures: b - 1, w - 7.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . X O . . X X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . O . O O 2 . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . O . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . X O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . O . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X X O X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . O X O . O . O X . O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X O O O O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X X X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . O X O X . . O O |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X O . O X X . . O . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . O X . O O . O |
$$ | . . O O . X X . . , X . X O O O . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . X O X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . X O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #164 Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:44 am 
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[go]$$Wcm114 Captures: b - 1, w - 7.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . X O . . X X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . O . O O X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . 1 X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . O . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . X O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . O . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X X O X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . O X O . O . O X . O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X O O O O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X X X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . O X O X . . O O |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X O . O X X . . O . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . O X . O O . O |
$$ | . . O O . X X . . , X . X O O O . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . X O X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . X O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Protect l16, otherwise black can connect easily. Not that he can't connect at all... But i want him to do it in gote. This move is the most promising compared to l16, l17 etc.

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Post #165 Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:23 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm114 Captures: b - 1, w - 7.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . X O . . X X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . O . O O X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . 1 X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . O . . X O 2 . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . X O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . O . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X X O X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . O X O . O . O X . O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X O O O O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X X X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . O X O X . . O O |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X O . O X X . . O . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . O X . O O . O |
$$ | . . O O . X X . . , X . X O O O . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . X O X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . X O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #166 Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 6:09 am 
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[go]$$Wcm116 Captures: b - 1, w - 7.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . X O . . X X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . O . O O X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . O X O 1 . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . O . . X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . X O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . O . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X X O X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . O X O . O . O X . O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X O O O O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X X X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . O X O X . . O O |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X O . O X X . . O . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . O X . O O . O |
$$ | . . O O . X X . . , X . X O O O . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . X O X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . X O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
He will have to make more moves to capture

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Post #167 Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 10:48 am 
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[go]$$Wcm116 Captures: b - 1, w - 7.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . X O . . X X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . O . O O X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . O X O 1 . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . O . . X O X 2 . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . X O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . O . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X X O X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . O X O . O . O X . O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X O O O O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X X X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . O X O X . . O O |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X O . O X X . . O . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . O X . O O . O |
$$ | . . O O . X X . . , X . X O O O . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . X O X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . X O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



I think that this would have been better for W. It reduces B's territory some, and ends in sente if B doesn't want to lose that stone.

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[go]$$Wcm116 Captures: b - 1, w - 7.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . X O . . X X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . O . O O X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . O X O 2 . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . O . . X O X 1 . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . X O 3 X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . O . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X X O X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . O X O . O . O X . O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X O O O O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X X X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . O X O X . . O O |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X O . O X X . . O . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . O X . O O . O |
$$ | . . O O . X X . . , X . X O O O . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . X O X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . X O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #168 Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 10:50 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm118 Captures: b - 1, w - 7.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . X O . . X X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . O . O O X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . O X O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . O . 1 X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . X O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . O . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X X O X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . O X O . O . O X . O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X O O O O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X X X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . O X O X . . O O |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X O . O X X . . O . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . O X . O O . O |
$$ | . . O O . X X . . , X . X O O O . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . X O X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . X O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Some forcing moves to reduce his liberties and build my eyespace

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Post #169 Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:10 am 
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[go]$$Wcm118 Captures: b - 1, w - 7.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . X O . . X X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . O . O O X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . O X O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . O . 1 X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . 2 X O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . O . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X X O X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . O X O . O . O X . O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X O O O O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X X X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . O X O X . . O O |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X O . O X X . . O . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . O X . O O . O |
$$ | . . O O . X X . . , X . X O O O . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . X O X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . X O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #170 Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 5:09 am 
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[go]$$Wcm120 Captures: b - 1, w - 7.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . X O . . X X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . O . O O X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . O X O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . O . O X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . O 1 . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X X O X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . O X O . O . O X . O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X O O O O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X X X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . O X O X . . O O |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X O . O X X . . O . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . O X . O O . O |
$$ | . . O O . X X . . , X . X O O O . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . X O X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . X O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Depending on the answer, i may need to hunt the h16-h17 stones...

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Post #171 Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 7:14 am 
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[go]$$Wcm120 Captures: b - 1, w - 7.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . X O . . X X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . O . O O X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . O X O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . O . O X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . O 1 2 X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X X O X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . O X O . O . O X . O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X O O O O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X X X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . O X O X . . O O |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X O . O X X . . O . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . O X . O O . O |
$$ | . . O O . X X . . , X . X O O O . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . X O X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . X O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #172 Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 8:27 am 
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Depending on the answer, i may need to hunt the h16-h17 stones...

I don't really see a way for white to capture those two stones. As far as I can tell, cutting the keima doesn't work, and cutting the connection to the main black group doesn't seem to work out without preparation either.

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Post #173 Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:47 am 
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[go]$$Wcm122 Captures: b - 1, w - 7.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . X O . 1 X X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . O . O O X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . O X O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . O . O X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . O O X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X X O X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . O X O . O . O X . O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X O O O O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X X X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . O X O X . . O O |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X O . O X X . . O . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . O X . O O . O |
$$ | . . O O . X X . . , X . X O O O . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . X O X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . X O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Either i live with k18, or i connect, or i don't see something awful
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[go]$$Wcm122 Captures: b - 1, w - 7.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 5 . 3 2 4 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . X O . 1 X X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . O . O O X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . O X O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . O . O X O X X . . . |[/go]

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Post #174 Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 12:11 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm122 Captures: b - 1, w - 7.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . 2 . X O . 1 X X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . O . O O X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . O X O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . O . O X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . O O X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X X O X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . O X O . O . O X . O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X O O O O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X X X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . O X O X . . O O |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X O . O X X . . O . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . O X . O O . O |
$$ | . . O O . X X . . , X . X O O O . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . X O X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . X O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I think I will make a little shape in sente. I will either follow up with an invasion on the left or a hane at the bottom left. I havn't decided if it is sente or not yet.

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Post #175 Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:38 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm124 Captures: b - 1, w - 7.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . X O . O X X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . O . O O X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . O X O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . O . O X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . O O X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X X O X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . O X O . O . O X . O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X O O O O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X X X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . O X O X . . O O |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X O . O X X . . O . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . O X . O O . O |
$$ | . . O O . X X . . , X . X O O O . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . X O X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . X O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
So he lets me live.

Some counting:
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[go]$$Wcm124 Captures: b - 1, w - 7.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | ? ? ? ? . . . . . . . . . ? ? ? ? ? ? |
$$ | ? ? ? ? . . . . . 1 . . . ? ? ? ? ? ? |
$$ | ? ? O ? . X . X O ? O X X ? X ? ? ? ? |
$$ | ? ? ? O . . . X . O ? O O X ? ? X ? ? |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O ? . O X P P ? ? ? ? |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . O . O X P X X ? . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . O O X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X X O X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . O X O . O . O X . O . |
$$ | ? ? ? O . . . . X O O O O O X . X . . |
$$ | ? ? ? ? . . . . X X X X X O X . . . . |
$$ | ? ? ? ? O . . . . ? ? P X O X . . O O |
$$ | ? ? ? Z . . . . . X P ? P X X . . O ? |
$$ | . . . ? O O . . . ? ? ? P X . O O ? O |
$$ | . . O O . X X . . ? X ? X O O O ? ? ? |
$$ | . . X X . ? ? ? ? ? ? ? X O Z Z O ? O |
$$ | . . ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? . X O ? Z O O Z |
$$ | ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? . . . . ? ? ? ? |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

W has 66.5, B has 76. Black is ahead :( Resign soon?

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Post #176 Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 2:57 pm 
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W has 66.5, B has 76. Black is ahead :( Resign soon?
http://nooooooooooooooo.com/ :o Never give up, never surrender! Now that White's weak group lived, Black's neighboring group has become weakened. For instance, White might aim at the following cut and at weakknesses "a," "b," and "c":
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[go]$$W
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . B . B O . O X X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . B . O . O O X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . c . O . . O X O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . B . . O . O X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . b . . . X . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . B . O O X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . a . O X X O X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . B . O X O . O . O X . O . |
$$ | . . . O . . 1 . X O O O O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X X X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . O X O X . . O O |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X O . O X X . . O . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . O X . O O . O |
$$ | . . O O . X X . . , X . X O O O . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . X O X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . X O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

If Black now simply links up with :b1:, White could claim a healthy chunk of territory on the left side with something like :w2: (although it would probably be better to threaten the various cutting points first). Therefore, there is much play left in the position.
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[go]$$B
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . X O . O X X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . O . O O X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . O X O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . O . O X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . . . 2 . . X . O O X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X X O X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . O X O . O . O X . O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X O O O O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 1 . X X X X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . O X O X . . O O |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X O . O X X . . O . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . O X . O O . O |
$$ | . . O O . X X . . , X . X O O O . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . X O X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . X O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #177 Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 3:12 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm124 Captures: b - 1, w - 7.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . X O . O X X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . O . O O X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . O X O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . O . O X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . O O X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . 2 . . . . O X X O X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . O X O . O . O X . O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X O O O O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X X X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . O X O X . . O O |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X O . O X X . . O . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . O X . O O . O |
$$ | . . O O . X X . . , X . X O O O . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . X O X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . X O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



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[go]$$Wcm124 Captures: b - 1, w - 7.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . X O . O X X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . O . O O X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . O X O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . O . O X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . d X . O O X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . 2 . c . . O X X O X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . O X O . O . O X . O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X O O O O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . a . X X X X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . O X O X . . O O |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X O . O X X . . O . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . O X . O O . O |
$$ | . b O O . X X . . , X . X O O O . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . X O X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . X O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


My g14 group can still be cut off and forced to make local life, but defending at "a" is way too slow. I decided that the Hane at b is not sente, though it is enormous. I think W's fiercest resistance in this position is at "C". I can connect up and make eyes by blocking at "D" and maybe sacrificing a stone.

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Post #178 Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:38 am 
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[go]$$Wcm126 Captures: b - 1, w - 7.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . X O . O X X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . O . O O X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . O X O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . O . O X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . 1 . . . . . . . X . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . O O X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O X X O X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . O X O . O . O X . O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X O O O O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X X X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . O X O X . . O O |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X O . O X X . . O . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . O X . O O . O |
$$ | . . O O . X X . . , X . X O O O . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . X O X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . X O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
If i give away the left side, it'll be too easy for him. Though he's already ahead.. I don't know whether i should resign now. I doubt i can come back

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Post #179 Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:20 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm126 Captures: b - 1, w - 7.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . X O . O X X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . O . O O X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . O X O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . O . O X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . 1 . . . . . . . X . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . O O X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O X X O X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . O X O . O . O X . O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X O O O O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X X X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . O X O X . . O O |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X O . O X X . . O . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . O X . O O . O |
$$ | . 2 O O . X X . . , X . X O O O . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . X O X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . X O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This looks sente now, and it is an enourmous move. I am happy to take it.

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Post #180 Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 1:11 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm128 Captures: b - 1, w - 7.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . X O . O X X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . O . O O X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . O X O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . O . O X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . O O X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O X X O X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . O X O . O . O X . O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X O O O O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X X X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . O X O X . . O O |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X O . O X X . . O . |
$$ | . 1 . . O O . . . . . . O X . O O . O |
$$ | . X O O . X X . . , X . X O O O . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . X O X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . X O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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