#180 Splatted vs konfuzed

Splatted · **#81**

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skydyr · **#82**

Splatted wrote:

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Otherwise he can destroy the eye I made.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm43 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O | $$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . | $$ | . . X O . . O X . . . . . X . X X O O | $$ | . . X , . O . X . , . . . X . X O X . | $$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . O X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . X . . X . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I'm wondering if something like this 6 might be better to play first, leaving endgame aji for later.

konfuzed · **#83**

konfuzed · **#84**

Sorry, I put aside some time today to make a move but I was forced back to the drawing board in the process of typing my post :-?

This is why I didn't

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O | $$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . | $$ | . . X O . . O X . . . . . X . X X O O | $$ | . . X , . O . X . , . . . X . X O X . | $$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . . . 9 8 O X . | $$ | . . . . . . . 3 . . . . . . . . 7 6 . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X 1 5 | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . O 2 . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . X . . X . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm10 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O | $$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . | $$ | . . X O . . O X . . . . . X . X X O O | $$ | . . X , . O . X . , . . . X . X O X 9 | $$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . . . X O O X 7 | $$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . 2 1 X O 6 | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 3 4 O 8 | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X X | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . O O . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . X . . X . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm19 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O | $$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . | $$ | . . X O . . O X . . . . . X . X X O O | $$ | . . X , . O . X . , . . . X . X O X O | $$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . . . X O O X O | $$ | . . . . . . . B . . . . . . X O X 1 X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 . 2 X X X X | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . 5 3 O O . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . X . . X . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

My tenuki being at the circled point as opposed to somewhere else does help a bit, but even with that this still looks like a poor outcome for me. And if his response to my move is sente I don't see how it's a reasonable move.

konfuzed · **#85**

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm43 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O | $$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . | $$ | . . X O . . O X . . . . . X . X X O O | $$ | . . X , . O . X . , . . . X . X O X . | $$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . O X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X 7 . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . X . . X . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Splatted · **#86**

Splatted · **#87**

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm43 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O | $$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . | $$ | . . X O . . O X . . . . . X . X X O O | $$ | . . X , . O . X . , . . . X . X O X . | $$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . O X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . 8 . O . . | $$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . X . . X . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

konfuzed · **#88**

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm43 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O | $$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . | $$ | . . X O . . O X . . . . . X . X X O O | $$ | . . X , . O . X . , . . . X . X O X . | $$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . O X . | $$ | . . . . . . . 9 . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . | $$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . X . . X . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

konfuzed · **#89**

Splatted · **#90**

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm43 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O | $$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . | $$ | . . X O . . O X . . . . . X . X X O O | $$ | . . X , . O . X . , . . . X . X O X . | $$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . O X . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . | $$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . 0 . . . . . X . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . X . . X . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

konfuzed · **#91**

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm43 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O | $$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . | $$ | . . X O . . O X . . . . . X . X X O O | $$ | . . X , . O . X . , . . . X . X O X . | $$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . O X . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . | $$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . O . . . . . X . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . X 1 . X . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Splatted · **#92**

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm43 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O | $$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . | $$ | . . X O . . O X . . . . . X . X X O O | $$ | . . X , . O . X . , . . . X . X O X . | $$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . O X . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . 2 . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . | $$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . O . . . . . X . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . X X . X . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

konfuzed · **#93**

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm43 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O | $$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . | $$ | . . X O . . O X . . . . . X . X X O O | $$ | . . X , . O . X . , . . . X . X O X . | $$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . O X . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . 3 . O . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . | $$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . O . . . . . X . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . X X . X . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm43 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O | $$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . | $$ | . . X O . . O X . . . . . X . X X O O | $$ | . . X , . O . X . , . . . X . X O X . | $$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . O X . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . B . O . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . | $$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . O . . . . . X . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . X X . X . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I think he made a good move; his position is beginning to look imposing.

My "blitz reaction" told me to protect my development on the top.

But the marked stone is another one of those strange moves that jumped out at me and some feeling I can't explain makes me want to try it. Looks like I'm playing another move (like O17) based on a sort of defiant gut feeling I can't articulate rather than knowledge.

It looks wrong because it lets him into my moyo fairly easily and is so high for a capping move. But when I wonder why I want to play this move, all I can guess is that I feel a need for some presence in the bottom half of the center. My other feeling is that truly skilled players who look for points in the center and play with moyos/thickness don't really try to simply close it off as territory/keep the opponent out at all costs. Something about just trying to close my one big area off just feels wrong and bad to me, and a waste of a strong position somehow. I do not know how to play like they do, but I feel like I need to experiment with new things to have any hope of improving in that regard. And if this move fails, perhaps seeing the way in which it fails will grant me some further insight. I guess the bottom line is that I'm happy as I play this move, which I suppose is reason enough.

EDIT:N11 as a response too good for him?

Splatted · **#94**

No move yet. I just thought I should let you know that I'm going to be really busy over the next week and a bit and so I probably won't be making my move any time soon. I may make a move if I decide that's how I fell like spending my breaks, but I won't be making extra time for it.

konfuzed · **#95**

No pressure. Good luck.

EdLee · **#96**

For konfuzed, after the game:

EdLee · **#97**

konfuzed,

Splatted · **#98**

konfuzed wrote:

No pressure. Good luck.

Thanks, but since all I said was that I was busy, wishing me luck shows a disturbing level of insight in to my life...

Splatted · **#99**

On first glance Konfuzed's move seems to invite me to jump into his territory and reduce the detritus out of it, and that's probably what I'm going to do, but I have to be careful because he's clearly looking for a fight. It's a surprise to me that he's willing to risk so much territory here, but I think he's probably right not to just wall it off because my estimate puts me quite comfortably ahead if I can manage to make territory in the center.

Actually, I'm not sure he is looking for a fight. I was looking at how :b45:

doesn't form a border with the Q12 stones, but now I see that it works really well with his stones on the left. If I jump in and reduce on the top right, he can use the M11 stone to make territory on the left. Compare the two diagrams below.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm1 I was expecting something like this $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O | $$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . | $$ | . . X O . . O X . . . . . X . X X O O | $$ | . . X , . O . X . , . . . X . X O X . | $$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . O X . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X . 1 . X X X . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . O O O . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . O . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . | $$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . O . . . . . X . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . X X . X . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm43 Konfuzed might be planning something like this $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O | $$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . | $$ | . . X O . . O X . . . . . X . X X O O | $$ | . . X , . O . X . , . . . X . X O X . | $$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . O X . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . . . X O . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . X X X . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . X O . . . O . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . 3 . O . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . | $$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . O . . . . . X . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . X X . X . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Black makes a similar amount of territory in both, but in the second one white is playing dame.

My first instincts for dealing with this are a and b in the diagram below.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm43 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O | $$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . | $$ | . . X O . . O X . . . . . X . X X O O | $$ | . . X , . O . X . , . . . X . X O X . | $$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . O X . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . a . 3 . O . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . b . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . | $$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . O . . . . . X . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . X X . X . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

a is the obvious move to stop black making territory in that area, but it doesn't really appear to do anything else. It's a weak stone that I can't really afford to lose and seems unlikely to end up being anything more than a dame stone, so I don't really like it.

b is an attempt to try and fix that by playing a move that faces my strength and so might turn in to territory. It's pretty much just a different version of my pre :b45:

plan, which may or may not be a good thing, but I think it's important to try and find moves that are good for me rather than just bad for black. The main problem I have with this move is that I'm not sure I can afford to let black push down on it.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O | $$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . | $$ | . . X O . . O X . . . . . X . X X O O | $$ | . . X , . O . X . , . . . X . X O X . | $$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . O X . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . X . O . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . 1 2 . . a . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . 3 4 . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . 5 . . . . b . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . | $$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . O . . . . . X . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . X X . X . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

This seems good for my left side, but I'm not sure I can allow black to gain strength with :b2:

and

because it makes the peeps (or maybe even cuts) at a and b much more severe. I don't think I have any choice but to connect against them, after which they'll easily connect to black's three stones in the center and my group may be in trouble. I think this would be good for me if I can allow it though, so I'm going to have to consider it in more detail later.

Splatted · **#100**

Sorry for the wait. Here's my move

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm43 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O | $$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . | $$ | . . X O . . O X . . . . . X . X X O O | $$ | . . X , . O . X . , . . . X . X O X . | $$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . O X . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . X . O . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . 4 . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . | $$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . O . . . . . X . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . X X . X . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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