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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: #181 magicwand vs topazg (again!)
Post #61 Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 12:28 pm 
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DGS: magicwand
OGS: magicwand
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[go]$$Bcm41 Prisoners: none
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . X . . X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . X . . O . . O O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . O . . . . . . X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 . O . O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . . O . . O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

wrong answer by my opponent...

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Offline topazg
 Post subject: Re: #181 magicwand vs topazg (again!)
Post #62 Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 2:41 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm41 Prisoners: none
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . X . . X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . X . . O . . O O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . O . . . . . . X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 . O . O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . . O . . O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . 7 . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Ok, here goes ... see if I can get a play in both corners
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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: #181 magicwand vs topazg (again!)
Post #63 Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 3:03 pm 
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DGS: magicwand
OGS: magicwand
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[go]$$Bcm41 Prisoners: none
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . X . . X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . X . . O . . O O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . O . . . . . . X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 . O . O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 8 O . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . . O . . O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
i think it is only move
i have seen professionals play this...so tried few times. never successful.
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[go]$$Bcm41 Prisoners: none
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . X . . X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . X . . O . . O O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . O . . . . . . X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 . O . O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . 8 O . O . . . O . . O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . 7 . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline The Intrepid
 Post subject: Re: #181 magicwand vs topazg (again!)
Post #64 Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 3:27 pm 
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Actually, this move is usually very strong, also:
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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . X . . X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . X . . O . . O O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . O . . . . . . X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . 1 . O . O . . . O . . O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

One can also try to exchange 1 for 2, first, but Black does not always have to respond:
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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . X . . X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . X . . O . . O O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . O . . . . . . X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . 2 . . . . . . . . . . O . O . O . . |
$$ | . 1 X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . 3 . O . O . . . O . . O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline topazg
 Post subject: Re: #181 magicwand vs topazg (again!)
Post #65 Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 11:03 am 
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[go]$$Bcm41 Prisoners: none
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . X . . X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . X . . O . . O O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . O . . . . . . X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 . O . O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 8 O . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . . O . . O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . 9 . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Time to have some fun .. see if I can do to his side what he seems to do to mine ...
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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: #181 magicwand vs topazg (again!)
Post #66 Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 11:35 am 
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OGS: magicwand
F3
not worried about him crawling

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Post #67 Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:24 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm51 Prisoners: none
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . X . . X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . X . . O . . O O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . O . . . . . . X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . 1 O . . O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Lots of comments behind this one, but I'll save it for later ;)
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Offline Magicwand
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Post #68 Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:27 pm 
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G2
I don't think that was good move.

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Post #69 Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:41 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm51 Prisoners: none
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . X . . X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . X . . O . . O O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . O . . . . . . X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . 1 O . . O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . . . 3 . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Offline Magicwand
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Post #70 Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 1:03 pm 
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L4

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Post #71 Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 1:25 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm51 Prisoners: none
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . X . . X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . X . . O . . O O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . O . . . . . . X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . 1 O 4 . O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . . . 3 . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . 5 X 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Playing here to increase the aji in the corner ... it really is dead, but I get a lot more leverage and better shape for my invasion with the forcing moves this gives me..
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Offline Magicwand
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Post #72 Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 3:59 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm51 Prisoners: none
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . X . . X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . X . . O . . O O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . O . . . . . . X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . 1 O 4 . O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . 6 . 3 . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . 5 X 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
did 1234 exchange really help black??? IMO no. he solidify my middle for no reason.

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Post #73 Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 6:30 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm51 Prisoners: none
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . X . . X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . X . . O . . O O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . O . . . . . . X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . 1 O 4 . O . . X O . . |
$$ | . 7 X . . O . 6 . 3 . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . 5 X 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Living, presumably in sente. It's a bit painful really, I just didn't think I'd get sente if I played :b55: directly, and I want to play first in the top left.
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 Post subject: Re: #181 magicwand vs topazg (again!)
Post #74 Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 7:00 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm51 Prisoners: none
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . X . . X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . X . . O . . O O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . O . . . . . . X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . O . . |
$$ | . . X X . 8 . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . 1 O 4 . O . . X O . . |
$$ | . 7 X . . O . 6 . 3 . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . 5 X 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
i think my opponent is strong..but he think i am much stronger than he is. which is not true.

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Offline topazg
 Post subject: Re: #181 magicwand vs topazg (again!)
Post #75 Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 8:41 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm51 Prisoners: none
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . X . . X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . X . . O . . O O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . O . . . . . . X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . 9 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . O . . |
$$ | . . X X . 8 . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . 1 O 4 . O . . X O . . |
$$ | . 7 X . . O . 6 . 3 . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . 5 X 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I was worried he'd turn his eye that way, I was eyeing up G6 as a way of getting some use out of the remaining aji later, and my group is far from secure. However, this not only supports my group somewhat, it breaks this ladder:

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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: none
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . X . . X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O 2 3 . X . . O . . O O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . 1 O . . . . . . X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . 4 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . B . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . O . . |
$$ | . . X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . X O O . O . . X O . . |
$$ | . X X . . O . O . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Which may have useful tactical considerations over the middle of the board, which may well become White's playground if I'm not careful.
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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: #181 magicwand vs topazg (again!)
Post #76 Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 5:54 am 
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[go]$$Bcm51 Prisoners: none
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . X . . X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . X . . O . . O O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . O . . . . . . X X X . |
$$ | . . 0 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . O . . |
$$ | . . X X . 8 . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . 1 O 4 . O . . X O . . |
$$ | . 7 X . . O . 6 . 3 . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . 5 X 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

simplify everything... and easy win for white.

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Offline topazg
 Post subject: Re: #181 magicwand vs topazg (again!)
Post #77 Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 11:35 am 
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[go]$$Bcm61 Prisoners: none
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . 1 . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . X . . X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . X . . O . . O O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . O . . . . . . X X X . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . O . . |
$$ | . . X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . X O O . O . . X O . . |
$$ | . X X . . O . O . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


So, taking a couple of reasonably big exchanges ... then should probably count. I was planning on doing a reasonably full explanation of the last 10 or so Black moves this evening. It'll take a bit of time, but I'm very happy doing it if people are still following and would appreciate it? :)

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Offline tomukaze
 Post subject: Re: #181 magicwand vs topazg (again!)
Post #78 Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 11:57 am 
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So, taking a couple of reasonably big exchanges ... then should probably count. I was planning on doing a reasonably full explanation of the last 10 or so Black moves this evening. It'll take a bit of time, but I'm very happy doing it if people are still following and would appreciate it? :)


Absolutely would welcome some comments on the game! It seems quite peaceful at the moment, are you planning on complicating it soon?

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Offline topazg
 Post subject: Re: #181 magicwand vs topazg (again!)
Post #79 Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 12:16 pm 
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Absolutely would welcome some comments on the game! It seems quite peaceful at the moment, are you planning on complicating it soon?


Hehe, I'm guessing by the sounds of it magicwand is thinking he's plenty ahead or something? I'm actually not sure if I need to. I've been thinking about it for a while, but even if White had komi I think the game is fairly close. Without it, I think I have reasonable-ish chances, at least against someone my own strength. After a couple of further exchanges I'll try to count (although it's not particularly easy to count this board right now), and maybe I'll re-assess. For example, I would have played the 3-3 if I thought I was in trouble, but that's clearly gote whereas I may get this exchange in sente. If so, I'm reasonably confident that the game could go to the wire.

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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: #181 magicwand vs topazg (again!)
Post #80 Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 2:16 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm61 Prisoners: none
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . 1 . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . 2 . . X . . . . X . O . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . X . . X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . X . . O . . O O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . O . . . . . . X X X . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . O . . |
$$ | . . X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . X O O . O . . X O . . |
$$ | . X X . . O . O . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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