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 Post subject: #184 Boidhre vs Tomukaze
Post #1 Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 2:02 pm 
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2 handicap was agreed. Closed book good with you Tom? (No databases, books, joseki dictionaries and similar)

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Post #2 Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 2:11 pm 
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Here's to a good game :)

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Post #3 Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 2:13 pm 
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Have a nice one. :)

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Post #4 Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 2:37 pm 
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Let the fun begin!

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Post #5 Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 2:48 pm 
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I feel like I should be pincering here but I'm unsure which pincer to choose. I've been going with the attach joseki lately even though it's a bit soft on white perhaps so I've decided to mix things up a bit in this game. :) I've gone with the low one space pincer since I'm most familiar with it but part of me longs to play a 3 space pincer here.


Edit:

Now that I've made the choice of pincer I'd welcome comment about whether a looser pincer would be better in a 2H game.

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Post #6 Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 2:58 pm 
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Ok this looks like the move to me, don't know much about this pincer so I am going on instinct

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Post #7 Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 3:02 pm 
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Keeping things simple.

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Post #8 Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 3:06 pm 
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Hard to call the pincer wrong, but I think I'd just approach at Q5. Can't hurt black to keep the symmetry for a few moves.

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Post #9 Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 3:21 pm 
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Looks natural to me here.

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Enjoy. :)

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Post #11 Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 3:36 pm 
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Thanks Ed! :)

Old fashioned I believe but I don't know the follow-ups for:

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Post #12 Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 4:01 pm 
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Felt like tenuki here, but my group is still under pressure and I will mess about on the top in a minute if he doesn't get there first.

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Post #13 Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 4:30 pm 
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I considered tenuki here but felt that'd be an opportunity missed.

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This is what he wants I think.

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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . 6 . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . 5 . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . 2 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 1 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This I think is somewhat better for Black. It induces me into making a good follow-up to the joseki I played. He can settle his left centre group very easily in gote but knowing Tom he'd be more likely to approach the bottom 4,4 point.

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Post #14 Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 4:35 pm 
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If I'm not mistaken, this is the joseki move, after which "a" and "b" are miai for White.
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[go]$$Wcm1
$$ ----------------
$$ | . . . . . . .
$$ | . . X . X . .
$$ | . . O X . b .
$$ | . . O , . . .
$$ | . . . O . . .
$$ | . . . . 1 . .
$$ | . . X . . . .
$$ | . . . a . . .
$$ | . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . , . . .[/go]
The move in the game gets White disconnected.

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Post #15 Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 4:45 pm 
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(Edit) sorry :cry: , hidden again
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Modern joseki

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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 6 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . 1 . . 7 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . 2 . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . 4 . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 5 , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Possible variation

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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 6 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . 1 . . 7 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . 2 . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X 5 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


White can also play G16 attachment, this derives many complicated variations. Incomplete joseki.

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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 2 . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #16 Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:17 pm 
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The Intrepid wrote:
If I'm not mistaken, this is the joseki move, after which "a" and "b" are miai for White.
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[go]$$Wcm1
$$ ----------------
$$ | . . . . . . .
$$ | . . X . X . .
$$ | . . O X . b .
$$ | . . O , . . .
$$ | . . . O . . .
$$ | . . . . 1 . .
$$ | . . X . . . .
$$ | . . . a . . .
$$ | . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . , . . .[/go]
The move in the game gets White disconnected.

Yes this is joseki, and this sequence is considered better for white recently. This is why nowadays pros play G17 instead of E18 .
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[go]$$Wcm1
$$ ----------------
$$ | . . . . . . .
$$ | . . X . X . .
$$ | . . O X . b .
$$ | . . O , . . .
$$ | . . . O . . .
$$ | . . . . 1 . .
$$ | . . X . . . .
$$ | . . . a . . .
$$ | . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . , . . .[/go]


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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ ----------------
$$ | . . . . . . .
$$ | . . X . . . .
$$ | . . O X . . 1
$$ | . . O , . . .
$$ | . . . O . . .
$$ | . . . . . . .
$$ | . . X . 2 . .
$$ | . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . , . . .[/go]

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Post #17 Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:39 pm 
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I think you unhid your comment a bit too soon. There is still the lower right corner where this joseki might get played.

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Post #18 Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 6:09 pm 
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@lovelove
I think you unhid your comment a bit too soon. There is still the lower right corner where this joseki might get played.

:salute:

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Post #19 Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 8:41 am 
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[go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: none
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . 0 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 9 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . W . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Not sure how to put white stone with 11 in it. Tried just writing 1 in the space but that gave a white stone with a 1 in it not 11. Anyway I am playing the circled stone.

I play psychologically against Boidhre and want to see how he will attack me in the upper left if he will at all. Also he needs to learn how to attack more viciously, so I can take advantage of that. This may not be the best way to play against an opponent in general but I know my enemy here :P

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Post #20 Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 8:57 am 
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[go]$$Wcm11 Prisoners: none
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


You edit the argument on top. $$WcmX where X is the move number assigned to 1 and W the colour assigned to the stone.

Keeping White from easily settling his group by play :b12: himself and develops from my hoshi stone. One weak group versus two weak groups is something I can live with even if my group lacks eyes. My game plan is to keep white separated while making territory on the top, I'll probably not get away with this knowing Tom. :)

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