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[go]$$Wm72 :b1:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O , . O . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X 1 . X O . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . O O . X O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X X . O . . . O X X X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X . . . X O . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X O O . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #202 Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 2:12 pm 
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[go]$$Bm73 :b1:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O , . O . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . 1 O O . O O . X O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X X . O . . . O X X X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X . . . X O . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X O O . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]
I expect the following sequence:
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[go]$$Wc
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O , . O . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . 6 . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . 1 3 . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O 2 X O . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O O 5 O O . X O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X X 4 O . . . O X X X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X . . . X O . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X O O . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

I rejected the following :b1: as :w2: would give White too much territory in the center:
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[go]$$Bc
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O , . O . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . 2 . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 1 . O O . O O . X O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X X . O . . . O X X X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X . . . X O . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X O O . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

Incidentally, there is still one huge point on the board, :b1:, which, by my count, is worth around 22 points; :w2: is also big and is worth around 14 points (I'll double check these values later on).
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[go]$$Bc
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O , . O . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O O . O O . X O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X X . O . . . O X X X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X . . . X O 1 . . |
$$ | . . . O O X O O . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . 2 X X . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

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First feeling is this double hane shape:
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[go]$$W
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O , . O . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . 1 . . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . B O O . O O . X O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X X . O . . . O X X X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X . . . X O . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X O O . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]
Hmmm...
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[go]$$W
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O , . O . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O 5 . . . . . , . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . 1 2 . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . 4 X O 3 X O . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O O . O O . X O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X X . O . . . O X X X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X . . . X O . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X O O . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

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[go]$$Wm74 :b1:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O , . O . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . 1 . . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O O . O O . X O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X X . O . . . O X X X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X . . . X O . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X O O . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

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[go]$$Bm75 :b1:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O , . O . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . 5 . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O 2 . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O 1 X O . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O O 4 O O . X O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X X 3 O . . . O X X X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X . . . X O . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X O O . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]
Exciting stuff! :) White's got some problems to solve here.

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Post #206 Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 9:01 pm 
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The Intrepid wrote:
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[go]$$Bm75 :b1:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O , . O . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . 5 . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O 2 . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O 1 X O . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O O 4 O O . X O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X X 3 O . . . O X X X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X . . . X O . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X O O . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]
Exciting stuff! :) White's got some problems to solve here.


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[go]$$Wm1 :b1:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O , . O . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O , . 1 3 . 5 7 . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O O . X 2 4 6 . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X X O . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O O O O O . X O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X X X O . . . O X X X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X . . . X O . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X O O . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

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[go]$$Wm80 :b1:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O , . O . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O O . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X X O . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O O O O O . X O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X X X O . . . O X X X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X . . . X O . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X O O . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #208 Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 11:23 am 
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[go]$$Bm81 :b1:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O , . O . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . 1 O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O O . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X X O . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O O O O O . X O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X X X O . . . O X X X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X . . . X O . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X O O . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]
As White, I would have chosen this line:
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[go]$$Wc
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O , . O . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . 5 O O . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | 7 2 X O X X O . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 3 1 X O O O O O . X O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . 4 6 X X X O . . . O X X X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X . . . X O . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X O O . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]
After this, as Black, I would probably just tenuki to take the remaining big point on the board. Black should be ahead in the resulting position.
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[go]$$Bcm8
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O , . O . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | O . . O X X O . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O O O O O . X O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . X X X X X O . . . O X X X O . 2 . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X . . . X O 1 3 . |
$$ | . . . O O X O O . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

Despite this, the exchange of :wc: for :bc: might be a worse choice for White as now his group on the left might start experience serious problems. Specifically, if White insists on denying Black access to the center, the consequences might prove dire:
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[go]$$Wc
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O , . O . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O 3 . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . B W 2 . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X 1 5 . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . 4 . . . . . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O O . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X X O . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O O O O O . X O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X X X O . . . O X X X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X . . . X O . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X O O . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

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[go]$$Bcm6
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O , . O . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O X . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . 1 X 2 5 . . . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O 4 3 . . . . , . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O O . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X X O . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 6 X O O O O O . X O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X X X O . . . O X X X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X . . . X O . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X O O . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

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[go]$$Bcm12
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O , . O . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O X . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . 7 X X O X . . . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . , . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . 4 O O . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | 6 1 X O X X O . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 2 O X O O O O O . X O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . 3 5 X X X O . . . O X X X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X . . . X O . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X O O . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]
Suddenly, White group turns out to be dead.

In other words, EdLee needs to be careful how he continues here.

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$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O , . O . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X 1 . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O O . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X X O . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O O O O O . X O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X X X O . . . O X X X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X . . . X O . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X O O . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

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[go]$$Bm83 :b1:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O , . O . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O 2 . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O 1 . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . 3 . . . . . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O O . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X X O . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O O O O O . X O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X X X O . . . O X X X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X . . . X O . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X O O . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]
It turns out that I did not read far enough in my initial analysis. In the final diagram from my last post, my current reading tells me that White can win the capturing race:
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[go]$$Wc
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O , . O . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O X . . 3 . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . X X X O X . . . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O O X 2 1 . . , . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | O . . O X X O . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O O O O O . X O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . X X X X X O . . . O X X X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X . . . X O . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X O O . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

Therefore, if this position is reached in the game, I'll need to let White live:
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[go]$$Bc
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O , . O . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O X 2 . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O 1 . . 3 . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . 4 X X O X . . . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . , . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | O . . O X X O . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O O O O O . X O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . X X X X X O . . . O X X X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X . . . X O 5 . . |
$$ | . . . O O X O O . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

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[go]$$Wm86 :b1:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O , . O . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O X . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X O 1 . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O O . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X X O . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O O O O O . X O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X X X O . . . O X X X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X . . . X O . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X O O . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

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[go]$$Bm87 :b1:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O , . O . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O X . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . 1 X . . . . . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O O . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X X O . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O O O O O . X O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X X X O . . . O X X X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X . . . X O . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X O O . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]
Now I'm thinking that maybe I should just tenuki after White's next move and leave the aji on the left side for later ... I need to think about the position some more, that's for sure.

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$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O , . O . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O X . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X X 1 . . . . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O O . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X X O . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O O O O O . X O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X X X O . . . O X X X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X . . . X O . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X O O . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

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$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O , . O . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O X . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O O . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X X O . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O O O O O . X O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X X X O . . . O X X X O . 2 . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X . . . X O 1 3 . |
$$ | . . . O O X O O . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]
I figured out a way to be super smart. :D I plan to play the following move (or "a") at an opportune moment:
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[go]$$Bc
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O , . O . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O X . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . 1 . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . a . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O O . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X X O . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O O O O O . X O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X X X O . . . O X X X O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X . . . X O X X . |
$$ | . . . O O X O O . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

After this, the threat of killing White's group on the left will be real:
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[go]$$Bc
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O , . O . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O X . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . X . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X X O 3 . . . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O 2 1 . . . . , . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . 8 O O . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | 0 5 X O X X O . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 6 4 X O O O O O . X O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . 7 9 X X X O . . . O X X X O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X . . . X O X X . |
$$ | . . . O O X O O . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

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[go]$$Bcm11
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O , . O . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O X 2 . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O 1 . B . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . 3 X X O X . . . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . , . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | O . . O X X O . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O O O O O . X O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . X X X X X O . . . O X X X O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X . . . X O X X . |
$$ | . . . O O X O O . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]
Thanks to :bc:, White can no longer win the capturing race. I feel so smart right now, I can hardly contain myself! :mrgreen:

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[go]$$Wm92 :b1:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O , . O . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O X . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . 1 . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O O . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X X O . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O O O O O . X O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X X X O . . . O X X X O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X . . . X O X X . |
$$ | . . . O O X O O . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #216 Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 11:39 pm 
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I don't feel quite so smart anymore. :D I missed that White actually has a ko for life on the left (the exchange of :w6: for :b7: makes all the difference):
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[go]$$Bc
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O , . O . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O X . . . . . 2 . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . 7 X O O . . 1 . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . 6 X X O 5 . . . O . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O 4 3 . . . . , . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O O . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . 9 X O X X O . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 0 8 X O O O O O . X O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X X X O . . . O X X X O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X . . . X O X X . |
$$ | . . . O O X O O . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

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[go]$$Bcm11
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O , . O . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O X . . . . . O . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . B X O O . . X . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | 5 W X X O X . . . O . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | 6 . O O X . . . . , . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . 2 O O . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | 4 X X O X X O . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O O O O O . X O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . 1 3 X X X O . . . O X X X O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X . . . X O X X . |
$$ | . . . O O X O O . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

The capturing race with the presence of this ko is much harder to win than the capturing race without the ko--especially since White's last move removed many of my ko threats to connect to the Black group on the right.

However, if I have to fight a ko, I can fight a different (easier-looking) ko instead.
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[go]$$Wc
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O , . O . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O X . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X X O O . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O X X O X . . . O . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . , . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O O . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . 3 X O X X O . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 2 1 X O O O O O . X O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X X X O . . . O X X X O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X . . . X O X X . |
$$ | . . . O O X O O . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

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[go]$$Wc
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O , . O . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O X . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X X O O . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O X X O X . . . O . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . , . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O O . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . O C O X X O . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O X O O O O O . X O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . 5 4 X X X O . . . O X X X O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X . . . X O X X . |
$$ | . . . O O X O O . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

I should be able to win this ko, although I might have to take a loss somewhere else.

Anyhow, I've got many options to choose from for my next move and much counting to do for each of these alternatives. I think I chose to play tenuki in the bottom right corner too hastily (regardless of whether tenuking was the correct thing to do or not). The position is very complicated, so I should have made absolutely sure that I'm not missing any important resources (which I obviously was). I'll take my time this time around.
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Move 89 was, as a pro-friend once described such moves, black deciding to take a vacation. His hope for move 93, assumed that white passed on move 92, which never seemed likely.

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Post #219 Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:03 pm 
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Some findings:
First of all, I think I'm ahead by 5-10 points if I simply reduce White's moyo and take the big point at G3. Why Edlee did not come around to playing G3 himself is a bit of a mystery to me. Perhaps he does not see that the move threatens to rescue the two White stones in the bottom-left corner:
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[go]$$Wc
$$ | . . . X X X O . . . O X X X O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X . . . X O X X . |
$$ | . . . O O X O O . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X 3 . 1 X X . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

In any case, I believe Black can win without difficulties after the following sequence:
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[go]$$Bc
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . 6 . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O , 5 O 8 O . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . 7 . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . 2 . 1 . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O X . . . . 4 3 . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . 0 9 . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . O . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O O . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X X O . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O O O O O . X O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X X X O . . . O X X X O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X . . . X O X X . |
$$ | . . . O O X O O . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

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[go]$$Bcm11
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . O . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O , X O O O . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . O . X . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O X . . . . O X . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . O X . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . O 1 X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O , 5 6 . . . . 2 3 . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O O . X 8 . . . 4 . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . 7 X O X X O . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O O O O O . X O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X X X O . . . O X X X O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X . . . X O X X . |
$$ | . . . O O X O O . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . 9 X X . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

Instead of :b1:, Black might actually also be able to start with this move (and maybe even "a"), but I haven't read it out very well, yet:
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[go]$$Bc
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O , . O . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . 1 . . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O X . . . . . a . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . O . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O O . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X X O . . . O . . . . . . . . |[/go]
If this move works, a huge chunk of White's moyo would be destroyed.

That said, the tesuji I mentioned earlier seems to work:
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[go]$$Bc
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O , . O . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O X . . . . . 2 . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . 1 . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . 0 X X O 5 . . . O . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O 4 3 . . . . , . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O O . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . 7 X O X X O . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 8 6 X O O O O O . X O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . 9 . X X X O . . . O X X X O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X . . . X O X X . |
$$ | . . . O O X O O . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

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[go]$$Bcm11
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O , . O . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O X . . . . . O . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . 1 X O O . . X . 5 . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O X X O X . . . O . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . , . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . 2 O O . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | 4 X X O X X O . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O O O O O . X O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . X 3 X X X O . . . O X X X O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X . . . X O X X . |
$$ | . . . O O X O O . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

The point of :b15: is this:
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[go]$$Wcm16
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O , . O . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O X 4 . . . 2 O . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X X W W . . X 1 B 3 . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O X X W X . . . O . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . , . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | O . . O X X O . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O O O O O . X O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . X X X X X O . . . O X X X O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X . . . X O X X . |
$$ | . . . O O X O O . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]
The marked White stones get captured thanks to :b17:, and, if White does not capture :b15:, White will connect :b1: with his group on the right, successfully invading White's moyo.

I need to do some more reading, obviously, but it looks like I have a choice of two pathways to victory--the calm endgame grind or the violent train of ridiculous tesujis. I'll choose the more entertaining way if I can convince myself that :b1: plus :b15: combination works in all the lines.

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Post #220 Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 4:12 pm 
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Additional findings:
It turns out I could have killed White's group on the left on move :b89: (before tenuki-ing)--I missed :b7:.
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[go]$$Bc
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O , . O . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O X . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . 9 X O O . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . 8 X X O 3 . . . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O 2 1 . . . . , . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O O . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . 6 X O X X O . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 5 4 X O O O O O . X O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . 7 . X X X O . . . O X X X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X . . . X O . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X O O . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]
A bad misread, but what's new :roll:.

Another misread was that I thought Black needed one more move to win the capturing race, but I missed :b13: (which threatens "a").
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[go]$$Wcm10
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O , . O . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O X a . 3 . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X X O O . 4 . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O X X O X . . . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O O X 2 1 . . , . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O O . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . O . O X X O . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O X O O O O O . X O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . X . X X X O . . . O X X X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X . . . X O . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X O O . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

Now, after White's :w92:, the capturing race is rather difficult. I'm not sure, yet, but I might be losing the race by a single tempo. That said, perhaps I can still win the race if I first play :b1:
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[go]$$Bc
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O , . O . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O X . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . 1 . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . O . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O O . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X X O . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O O O O O . X O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X X X O . . . O X X X O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X . . . X O X X . |
$$ | . . . O O X O O . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

Worst case scenario: I'm still winning even if I don't invade White's moyo.

Reading--a nice skill to have. :study:

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