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Offline topazg
 Post subject: Re: #190 - topazg vs magicwand
Post #181 Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 11:00 am 
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[go]$$Wcm141 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X O O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . X O X O . X O X X . O O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X X O X X . O . X O X O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X . O . . . O . . X X X X X . . |
$$ | . X X O X O . X . . . . . . . O . O . |
$$ | . O O O O . . O O . O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X . O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . O X X X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , O O . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O X . O . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O X X X X . . 3 2 X . . |
$$ | . . O O . . X . X . O . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . X O . O X . . . . . X . . . . 1 . |
$$ | . . X . . . X O X . O O . . O O . X . |
$$ | . . . X X X . . . X . X X X X O . . 4 |
$$ | . . O X O . . O . . . . . X O X O O . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . X O O X X X . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Let's see if I keep sente :)
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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: #190 - topazg vs magicwand
Post #182 Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 11:19 am 
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[go]$$Wcm141 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X O O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . X O X O . X O X X . O O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X X O X X . O . X O X O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X . O . . . O . . X X X X X . . |
$$ | . X X O X O . X . . . . . . . O . O . |
$$ | . O O O O . . O O . O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X . O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . O X X X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , O O . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O X . O . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O X X X X . . 3 2 X . . |
$$ | . . O O . . X . X . O . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . X O . O X . . . . . X . . . . 1 . |
$$ | . . X . . . X O X . O O 5 . O O . X . |
$$ | . . . X X X . . . X . X X X X O . . 4 |
$$ | . . O X O . . O . . . . . X O X O O . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . X O O X X X . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline topazg
 Post subject: Re: #190 - topazg vs magicwand
Post #183 Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:24 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm141 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X O O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . X O X O . X O X X . O O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X X O X X . O . X O X O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X . O . . . O . . X X X X X . . |
$$ | . X X O X O . X . . . . . . . O . O . |
$$ | . O O O O . . O O . O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X . O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . O X X X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , O O . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O X . O . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O X X X X . . 3 2 X . . |
$$ | . . O O . . X . X . O . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . X O . O X . . . . . X . . . . 1 . |
$$ | . . X . . . X O X . O O 5 . O O . X . |
$$ | . . . X X X . . . X 6 X X X X O . . 4 |
$$ | . . O X O . . O . . . . . X O X O O . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . X O O X X X . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: #190 - topazg vs magicwand
Post #184 Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:42 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm141 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X O O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . X O X O . X O X X . O O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X X O X X . O . X O X O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X . O . . . O . . X X X X X . . |
$$ | . X X O X O . X . . . . . . . O . O . |
$$ | . O O O O . . O O . O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X . O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . O X X X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , O O . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O X . O . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O X X X X . . 3 2 X . . |
$$ | . . O O . . X . X . O . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . X O . O X . . . . . X . . . . 1 . |
$$ | . . X . . . X O X . O O 5 7 O O . X . |
$$ | . . . X X X . . . X 6 X X X X O . . 4 |
$$ | . . O X O . . O . . . . . X O X O O . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . X O O X X X . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: #190 - topazg vs magicwand
Post #185 Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 1:34 pm 
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his group had many aji so i can not stop him from escaping.
REMEMBER THAT SHAPE OF CUTTING KNIGHT MOVE.
What topazg did usually do not work on knight move and lost all aji
he at least could have catch my stones in sente and maintain his lead but now this game is going in my direction.
MORE LIKE I GET WILL BE AN INSPIRATION FOR MORE COMMENT. :)
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[go]$$Wcm131 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . 6 . . . 4 X O O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . X 5 X O . X O X X . O O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X . O X X . 3 . X O X O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X . 7 . . . O . . X X X X X . . |
$$ | . X X O X O . X . . . . . . . O . O . |
$$ | . O O O O . . O O . O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X . O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . O X X X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , O O . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O X . O . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X X X . 9 8 . X . . |
$$ | . . O O . . X . X . O . . 0 O . . O . |
$$ | . . X O . O X . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X O X . O O . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X 2 X . . . X . X X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X 1 . . O . . . . . X O X O O . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . X O O X X X . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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[go]$$Wcm131 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . 6 . . . 4 X O O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . X 5 X O . X O X X . O O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X . O X X . 3 . X O X O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X . 7 . . . O . . X X X X X . . |
$$ | . X X O X O . X . . . . . . . O . O . |
$$ | . O O O O . . O O . O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X . O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . O X X X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , O O . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O X . O . . . . 0 O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X X X . 9 8 . X . . |
$$ | . . O O . . X . X . O . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . X O . O X . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X O X . O O . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X 2 X . . . X . X X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X 1 . . O . . . . . X O X O O . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . X O O X X X . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline tj86430
 Post subject: Re: #190 - topazg vs magicwand
Post #186 Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 1:48 pm 
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topazg wrote:
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[go]$$Wcm141 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X O O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . X O X O . X O X X . O O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X X O X X . O . X O X O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X . O . . . O . . X X X X X . . |
$$ | . X X O X O . X . . . . . . . O . O . |
$$ | . O O O O . . O O . O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X . O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . O X X X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , O O . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O X . O . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O X X X X . . 3 2 X . . |
$$ | . . O O . . X . X . O . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . X O . O X . . . . . X . . . . 1 . |
$$ | . . X . . . X O X . O O 5 . O O . X . |
$$ | . . . X X X . . . X 6 X X X X O . . 4 |
$$ | . . O X O . . O . . . . . X O X O O . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . X O O X X X . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Can someone explain this move to me? Isn't he letting the L5 group connect to freedom for no reason, or am I (as usual) missing something?

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Offline topazg
 Post subject: Re: #190 - topazg vs magicwand
Post #187 Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 2:10 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm141 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X O O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . X O X O . X O X X . O O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X X O X X . O . X O X O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X . O . . . O . . X X X X X . . |
$$ | . X X O X O . X . . . . . . . O . O . |
$$ | . O O O O . . O O . O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X . O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . O X X X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , O O . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O X . O . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O X X X X . . 3 2 X . . |
$$ | . . O O . . X . X . O . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . X O . O X . . . . . X . . . 8 1 . |
$$ | . . X . . . X O X . O O 5 7 O O . X . |
$$ | . . . X X X . . . X 6 X X X X O . . 4 |
$$ | . . O X O . . O . . . . . X O X O O . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . X O O X X X . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: #190 - topazg vs magicwand
Post #188 Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 2:40 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm141 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X O O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . X O X O . X O X X . O O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X X O X X . O . X O X O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X . O . . . O . . X X X X X . . |
$$ | . X X O X O . X . . . . . . . O . O . |
$$ | . O O O O . . O O . O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X . O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . O X X X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , O O . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O X . O . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O X X X X . . 3 2 X . . |
$$ | . . O O . . X . X . O . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . X O . O X . . . . . X . . . 8 1 . |
$$ | . . X . . . X O X . O O 5 7 O O 9 X . |
$$ | . . . X X X . . . X 6 X X X X O . . 4 |
$$ | . . O X O . . O . . . . . X O X O O . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . X O O X X X . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline topazg
 Post subject: Re: #190 - topazg vs magicwand
Post #189 Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 2:41 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm141 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X O O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . X O X O . X O X X . O O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X X O X X . O . X O X O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X . O . . . O . . X X X X X . . |
$$ | . X X O X O . X . . . . . . . O . O . |
$$ | . O O O O . . O O . O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X . O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . O X X X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , O O . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O X . O . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O X X X X . . 3 2 X . . |
$$ | . . O O . . X . X . O . . . O . 0 O . |
$$ | . . X O . O X . . . . . X . . . 8 1 . |
$$ | . . X . . . X O X . O O 5 7 O O 9 X . |
$$ | . . . X X X . . . X 6 X X X X O . . 4 |
$$ | . . O X O . . O . . . . . X O X O O . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . X O O X X X . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: #190 - topazg vs magicwand
Post #190 Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 2:51 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm151 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X O O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . X O X O . X O X X . O O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X X O X X . O . X O X O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X . O . . . O . . X X X X X . . |
$$ | . X X O X O . X . . . . . . . O . O . |
$$ | . O O O O . . O O . O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X . O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . O X X X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , O O . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O X . O . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O X X X X . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . O O . . X . X . O . . . O . X O . |
$$ | . . X O . O X . . . . . X . . . X O . |
$$ | . . X . . . X O X . O O O O O O O X . |
$$ | . . . X X X . . . X X X X X X O . 1 X |
$$ | . . O X O . . O . . . . . X O X O O . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . X O O X X X . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

ko... good reading.
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[go]$$Wcm151 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X O O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . X O X O . X O X X . O O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X X O X X . O . X O X O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X . O . . . O . . X X X X X . . |
$$ | . X X O X O . X . . . . . . . O . O . |
$$ | . O O O O . . O O . O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X . O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . O X X X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , O O . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O X . O . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O X X X X . . O X X 2 . |
$$ | . . O O . . X . X . O . . . O . X O . |
$$ | . . X O . O X . . . . . X . . . X O a |
$$ | . . X . . . X O X . O O O O O O O X . |
$$ | . . . X X X . . . X X X X X X O . 1 X |
$$ | . . O X O . . O . . . . . X O X O O . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . X O O X X X . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline The Intrepid
 Post subject: Re: #190 - topazg vs magicwand
Post #191 Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 3:42 pm 
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tj86430 wrote:
Can someone explain this move to me? Isn't he letting the L5 group connect to freedom for no reason, or am I (as usual) missing something?
topazg addressed this issue briefly in post #164. The L5 group either connects to the stones on the right or to the stones on the bottom left. The problem is shortage of liberties of the O4 Black group.
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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X O O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . X O X O . X O X X . O O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X X O X X . O . X O X O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X . O . . . O . . X X X X X . . |
$$ | . X X O X O . X . . . . . . . O . O . |
$$ | . O O O O . . O O . O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X . O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . O X X X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , O O . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O X . O . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O X X X X . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . O O . . X . X . O . 4 . O . . O . |
$$ | . . X O . O X . . . . . X 3 . . . O . |
$$ | . . X . . . X O X . O O 1 2 O O . X . |
$$ | . . . X X X . . . X 5 X X X X O . . X |
$$ | . . O X O . . O . . 6 7 . X O X O O . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . X O O X X X . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #192 Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 4:14 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm151 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X O O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . X O X O . X O X X . O O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X X O X X . O . X O X O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X . O . . . O . . X X X X X . . |
$$ | . X X O X O . X . . . . . . . O . O . |
$$ | . O O O O . . O O . O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X . O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . O X X X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , O O . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O X . O . . . . 2 O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O X X X X . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . O O . . X . X . O . . . O . X O . |
$$ | . . X O . O X . . . . . X . . . X O . |
$$ | . . X . . . X O X . O O O O O O O X . |
$$ | . . . X X X . . . X X X X X X O . 1 X |
$$ | . . O X O . . O . . . . . X O X O O . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . X O O X X X . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Wcm151 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X O O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . X O X O . X O X X . O O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X X O X X . O . X O X O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X . O . . . O . . X X X X X . . |
$$ | . X X O X O . X . . . . . . . O . O . |
$$ | . O O O O . . O O . O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X . O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . O X X X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , O O . . 3 4 . 7 . |
$$ | . . . . O . O X . O . . . 5 2 O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O X X X X . . O X X 6 . |
$$ | . . O O . . X . X . O . . . O . X O . |
$$ | . . X O . O X . . . . . X . . . X O 8 |
$$ | . . X . . . X O X . O O O O O O O X . |
$$ | . . . X X X . . . X X X X X X O . 1 X |
$$ | . . O X O . . O . . . . . X O X O O . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . X O O X X X . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Can I fight this? More than he can I think as I have little to lose ... we'll see.
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Post #193 Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 6:36 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm151 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X O O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . X O X O . X O X X . O O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X X O X X . O . X O X O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X . O . . . O . . X X X X X . . |
$$ | . X X O X O . X . . . . . . . O . O . |
$$ | . O O O O . . O O . O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X . O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . O X X X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , O O . . 3 , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O X . O . . . . 2 O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O X X X X . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . O O . . X . X . O . . . O . X O . |
$$ | . . X O . O X . . . . . X . . . X O . |
$$ | . . X . . . X O X . O O O O O O O X . |
$$ | . . . X X X . . . X X X X X X O . 1 X |
$$ | . . O X O . . O . . . . . X O X O O . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . X O O X X X . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #194 Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 6:41 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm151 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X O O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . X O X O . X O X X . O O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X X O X X . O . X O X O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X . O . . . O . . X X X X X . . |
$$ | . X X O X O . X . . . . . . . O . O . |
$$ | . O O O O . . O O . O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X . O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . O X X X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , O O . . 3 4 . 7 . |
$$ | . . . . O . O X . O . . . 5 2 O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O X X X X . . O X X 6 . |
$$ | . . O O . . X . X . O . . . O . X O . |
$$ | . . X O . O X . . . . . X . . . X O 8 |
$$ | . . X . . . X O X . O O O O O O O X . |
$$ | . . . X X X . . . X X X X X X O . 1 X |
$$ | . . O X O . . O . . . . . X O X O O . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . X O O X X X . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Change any moves you disagree with :)
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 Post subject: Re: #190 - topazg vs magicwand
Post #195 Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 6:53 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm151 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X O O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . X O X O . X O X X . O O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X X O X X . O . X O X O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X . O . . . O . . X X X X X . . |
$$ | . X X O X O . X . . . . . . . O . O . |
$$ | . O O O O . . O O . O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X . O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . O X X X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , O O . . 3 4 . 7 . |
$$ | . . . . O . O X . O . . . 5 2 O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O X X X X . . O X X 6 . |
$$ | . . O O . . X . X . O . . . O . X O . |
$$ | . . X O . O X . . . . . X . . . X O 8 |
$$ | . . X . . . X O X . O O O O O O O C 9 |
$$ | . . . X X X . . . X X X X X X O . 1 X |
$$ | . . O X O . . O . . . . . X O X O O . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . X O O X X X . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

i guess we will count the prisoners later :)

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Post #196 Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 7:11 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm151 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X O O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . X O X O . X O X X . O O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X X O X X . O . X O X O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X . O . . . O . . X X X X X . . |
$$ | . X X O X O . X . . . . . . . O . O . |
$$ | . O O O O . . O O . O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X . O . O 0 O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . O X X X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , O O . . 3 4 . 7 . |
$$ | . . . . O . O X . O . . . 5 2 C X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O X X X X . . O X X 6 . |
$$ | . . O O . . X . X . O . . . O . X O . |
$$ | . . X O . O X . . . . . X . . . X O 8 |
$$ | . . X . . . X O X . O O O O O O O C 9 |
$$ | . . . X X X . . . X X X X X X O . 1 X |
$$ | . . O X O . . O . . . . . X O X O O . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . X O O X X X . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I have them on the board here - 3 white stones and 5 black stones ... we can always check at the end if it's really close :)
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Post #197 Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 7:32 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm161 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X O O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . X O X O . X O X X . O O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X X O X X . O . X O X O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X . O . . . O . . X X X X X . . |
$$ | . X X O X O . X . . . . . . . O . O . |
$$ | . O O O O . . O O . O . . . O O . 1 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X . O . O X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . O X X X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , O O . . O X . O . |
$$ | . . . . O . O X . O . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O X X X X . . O X X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . X . X . O . . . O . X O . |
$$ | . . X O . O X . . . . . X . . . X O X |
$$ | . . X . . . X O X . O O O O O O O C O |
$$ | . . . X X X . . . X X X X X X O . O X |
$$ | . . O X O . . O . . . . . X O X O O . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . X O O X X X . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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[go]$$Wcm161 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X O O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . X O X O . X O X X . O O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X X O X X . O . X O X O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X . O . . . O . . X X X X X . . |
$$ | . X X O X O . X . . . . . . . O . O . |
$$ | . O O O O . . O O . O . . . O O . 1 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X . O . O X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . O X X X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , O O . . O X . O . |
$$ | . . . . O . O X . O . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O X X X X . . O X X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . X . X . O . . . O . X O . |
$$ | . . X O . O X 3 . . . . X . . . X O X |
$$ | . . X . . . X O X . O O O O O O O 2 C |
$$ | . . . X X X . . . X X X X X X O . O X |
$$ | . . O X O . . O . . . . . X O X O O . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . X O O X X X . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #198 Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 9:19 pm 
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Can someone explain this move to me? Isn't he letting the L5 group connect to freedom for no reason, or am I (as usual) missing something?
topazg addressed this issue briefly in post #164. The L5 group either connects to the stones on the right or to the stones on the bottom left. The problem is shortage of liberties of the O4 Black group.
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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X O O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . X O X O . X O X X . O O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X X O X X . O . X O X O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X . O . . . O . . X X X X X . . |
$$ | . X X O X O . X . . . . . . . O . O . |
$$ | . O O O O . . O O . O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X . O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . O X X X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , O O . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O X . O . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O X X X X . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . O O . . X . X . O . 4 . O . . O . |
$$ | . . X O . O X . . . . . X 3 . . . O . |
$$ | . . X . . . X O X . O O 1 2 O O . X . |
$$ | . . . X X X . . . X 5 X X X X O . . X |
$$ | . . O X O . . O . . 6 7 . X O X O O . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . X O O X X X . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


thanks, I had missed that (both the post and reading the sequence)

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Post #199 Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:17 am 
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[go]$$Wcm161 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X O O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . X O X O . X O X X . O O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X X O X X . O . X O X O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X . O . . . O . . X X X X X . . |
$$ | . X X O X O . X . . . . . . . O 6 O . |
$$ | . O O O O . . O O . O . . . O O 7 1 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X . O . O X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . O X X X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , O O . . O X . O . |
$$ | . . . . O . O X . O . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O X X X X . . O X X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . X . X . O . . . O . X O . |
$$ | . . X O . O X 3 . . . . X . . . X O X |
$$ | . . X . . . X O X . O O O O O O O 8 C |
$$ | . . . X X X . 4 . X X X X X X O . O X |
$$ | . . O X O . . O . . . . . X O X O O . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . X O O X X X . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


:b62: @ :b68:
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Post #200 Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:37 am 
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[go]$$Wcm161 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X O O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . X O X O . X O X X . O O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X X O X X . O . X O X O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X . O . . . O . . X X X X X . . |
$$ | . X X O X O . X . . . . . . . O 6 O . |
$$ | . O O O O . . O O . O . . . O O 7 1 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X . O . O X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . O X X X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , O O . . O X . O . |
$$ | . . . . O . O X . O . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O X X X X . . O X X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . X 9 X . O . . . O . X O . |
$$ | . . X O . O X 3 . . . . X . . . X O X |
$$ | . . X . . . X O X . O O O O O O O 8 C |
$$ | . . . X X X . 4 . X X X X X X O . O X |
$$ | . . O X O . . O . . . . . X O X O O . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . X O O X X X . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

he played into my plan... now a and b are free ko threat that will give me points for free.
with that free points guarante all i need is small ko threats on upper left and right corner.
i think the cat is almost in the bag.
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[go]$$Wcm161 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X O O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . X O X O . X O X X . O O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X X O X X . O . X O X O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X . O . . . O . . X X X X X . . |
$$ | . X X O X O . X . . . . . . . O 6 O . |
$$ | . O O O O . . O O . O . . . O O 7 1 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X . O . O X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . O X X X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , O O . . O X . O . |
$$ | . . . . O . O X . O . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O X X X X . . O X X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . X 9 X . O . . . O . X O . |
$$ | . . X O . O X 3 . . . . X . . . X O X |
$$ | . . X . . . X O X . O O O O O O O 8 C |
$$ | . . . X X X . 4 . X X X X X X O . O X |
$$ | . . O X O . a O b . . . . X O X O O . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . X O O X X X . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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