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Post #181 Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 12:52 am 
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[go]$$Bm101 :w2:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . , . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O O X O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . O O X X . X X . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . X X . . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X O O X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . . . . O O X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . X , . X . . . , 1 . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . O X . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . O . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | X . X O X . . . O . X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X O . . . . . . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . . O X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . O . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . O . 2 . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]


Would really appreciate if someone could confirm, but isn't this bigger than responding directly? Black 101 threatens to make about 12 points or so in the middle, whereas my 102 threatens to take about as many points from black in the corner AND at the same time to add points for me there?

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Post #182 Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 10:21 pm 
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[go]$$Bm103 :w2:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . , . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O O X O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . O O X X . X X . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . X X . . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X O O X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . . . . O O X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . X , . X . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . O X . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . O . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | X . X O X . . . O . X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X O . . . . . . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . . O X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . O . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . O . O 1 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #183 Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 11:18 pm 
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[go]$$Bm103 :w2:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . , . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O O X O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . O O X X . X X . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . X X . . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X O O X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . . . . O O X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . X , . X . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . O X . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . O . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | X . X O X . . . O . X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X O . . . . . . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . . O X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . O . . O . 2 X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . O . O 1 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

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[go]$$Bm105 :w2:
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . , . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O O X O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . O O X X . X X . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . X X . . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X O O X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . . . . O O X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . X , . X . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . O X . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . O . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | X . X O X . . . O . X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X O . . . . . . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . . O X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . O . . O . O X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #185 Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 4:21 am 
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[go]$$Bm105 :w2:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . , . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O O X O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . O O X X . X X . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . X X . . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X O O X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . . . . O O X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . X , . X . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . O X . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . O . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | X . X O X . . . O . X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X O . . . . . . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . . O X . . . . 2 . . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . O . . O . O X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]


Either of us is now confused :scratch:
Below is ko, extremely heavy for black compared to white?
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[go]$$Bm105 :w2:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . , . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O O X O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . O O X X . X X . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . X X . . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X O O X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . . . . O O X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . X , . X . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . O X . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . O . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | X . X O X . . . O . X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X O . . . . . . O . . 7 . X . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . . O X . . . 5 2 4 . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . O . . O 6 O X 8 . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . O 3 . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]


And if Ed just wanted to play 107 below, why play 105 before it?
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[go]$$Bm105 :w2:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . , . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O O X O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . O O X X . X X . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . X X . . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X O O X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . . . . O O X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . X , . X . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . O X . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . O . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | X . X O X . . . O . X X O O . . 7 . . |
$$ | . X X X O . . . . . . O . . . 6 X . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . . O X . . . . 2 4 5 . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . O . . O . O X 3 . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

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[go]$$Bm107 :w2:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . , . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O O X O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . O O X X . X X . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . X X . . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X O O X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . . . . O O X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . X , . X . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . O X . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . O . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | X . X O X . . . O . X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X O . . . . . . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . . O X . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . O . . O . O X 1 . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #187 Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 9:56 pm 
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[go]$$Bm107 :w2:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . , . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O O X O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . O O X X . X X . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . X X . . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X O O X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . . . . O O X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . X , . X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . O X . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . O . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | X . X O X . . . O . X X O O . . 5 . . |
$$ | . X X X O . . . . . . O . . . 4 X . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . . O X . . . . O 2 3 . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . O . . O . O X 1 . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]


Feel free to vary if you want, I may well have misjudged :)

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[go]$$Bm113 :w2:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X 1 . |
$$ | . . X O O . O . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . , . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O O X O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . O O X X . X X . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . X X . . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X O O X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . . . . O O X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . X , . X . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . O X . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . O . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | X . X O X . . . O . X X O O . . X . . |
$$ | . X X X O . . . . . . O . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . . O X . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . O . . O . O X X . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #189 Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 2:34 am 
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[go]$$Bm113 :w2:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X 1 . |
$$ | . . X O O . O . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . , . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O O X O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . O O X X . X X . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . X X . . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X O O X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . . . . O O X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . 2 . X , . X . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . O X . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . O . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | X . X O X . . . O . X X O O . . X . . |
$$ | . X X X O . . . . . . O . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . . O X . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . O . . O . O X X . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]


I'd like to make a-b exchange below first, but I'm afraid Ed would play some sente move in middle before responding at b, messing up the possibility for chosen 114.

Ed may either let me capture the marked stone, or try the 115 below (or similar sequences, but in all the 115-116 below is the key). As long as I respond to 115 at 116, not 117, I should be ok, and be able to mess Ed's center area or capture the stones including the marked stone.
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[go]$$Bm113 :w2:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X 1 . |
$$ | . . X O O . O . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . , . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O O X O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . O O X X . X X . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . X X . . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X O O X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O O 5 4 . . O O X X X . . b . . |
$$ | . . O , . 3 2 . X , . X . . . a X . . |
$$ | . . . . . B 6 . . . X . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . O X . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . O . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | X . X O X . . . O . X X O O . . X . . |
$$ | . X X X O . . . . . . O . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . . O X . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . O . . O . O X X . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]


Below sequence, or similar with 114 one above this would capture the three black stones, but only as long as 118 is an atari on the marked stone. I don't want to play a capturing move here until I know how the fighting nearby goes, otherwise Ed would have a good threat of making the "capturing move" worthless by extending the marked stone during fighting.
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[go]$$Wm114 :w2:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X O O . O . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . , . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O O X O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . O O X X . X X . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . X X . . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X O O X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . . . . O O X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . X , . X . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . 6 . X . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . O B 5 7 . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . O 2 1 3 . . . X X . . |
$$ | X . X O X . . . O 4 X X O O . . X . . |
$$ | . X X X O . . . . . . O . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . . O X . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . O . . O . O X X . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

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[go]$$Bm115 :w2:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X O O . O . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . , . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O O X O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . O O X X . X X . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . X X . . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X O O X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . . . . O O X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . O . X , . X . . . 1 X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . O X . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . O . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | X . X O X . . . O . X X O O . . X . . |
$$ | . X X X O . . . . . . O . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . . O X . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . O . . O . O X X . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

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[go]$$Bm115 :w2:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X O O . O . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . , . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O O X O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . O O X X . X X . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . X X . . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X O O X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . . 2 . O O X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . O . X , . X . . . 1 X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . O X . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . O . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | X . X O X . . . O . X X O O . . X . . |
$$ | . X X X O . . . . . . O . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . . O X . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . O . . O . O X X . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]


Sente again? After this 116, the lone black stone is captured (which is IMHO bigger since sente as Ed's gote capture on right), and I can next snap up the three black stones in mid-bottom I have been eyeing for a long time.

About relative sizes of moves (I REALLY suck at this, good time to learn):
115: ~ 13 gote
116: ~ 9 (7 marked + capture) for me + whatever losses of area for Ed, IMHO sente
a: ~7, reverse sente for me (aka would be Ed'd sente)
b: 6 point sente?
c: 7 point reverse sente, with followups in corner?
d: I really can't say?
e-h: this is my sente, but will rob a liberty from my stones, unwilling to play it until I get d. Perhaps just make the e-f exchange at this point?
Can't say what should be played on left side, and how big the options there are. Will have to think about that.

Hohum. Is snapping up the three stones biggest after all? :)

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[go]$$Bm115 :w2:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . b . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X O O . O . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . , . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . d . . . O O X O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . O O X X . X X . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . X X e g h X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . f X O O X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . . 2 . O O X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O ? ? . O . X , . X . . . 1 X . . |
$$ | . . . ? ? X . . . . X . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O ? ? O X . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . X O O . ? . . O . a . . . . X X . . |
$$ | X . X O X . . . O . X X O O . . X . . |
$$ | . X X X O . . . . . . O . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . . O X . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . O . . O . O X X . . |
$$ | . X O c . . . . . . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #192 Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 11:22 pm 
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If White omitted his last move, Black could rescue the lone stone via the following sequence:
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[go]$$Bc
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X O O . O . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . , . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O O X O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . O O X X . X X . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . X X . . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X O O X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O O 2 . . . O O X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . 1 O . X , . X . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X 4 3 . . X . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . 5 O X . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . O . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | X . X O X . . . O . X X O O . . X . . |
$$ | . X X X O . . . . . . O . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . . O X . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . O . . O . O X X . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

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[go]$$Bm117 :w2:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X O O . O . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . , . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O O X O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . O O X X . X X . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . X X . . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X O O X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . . O 1 O O X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . O . X , . X . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . O X . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . O . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | X . X O X . . . O . X X O O . . X . . |
$$ | . X X X O . . . . . . O . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . . O X . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . O . . O . O X X . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #194 Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 9:47 am 
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Surprised W isn't looking at B8... bC9 seems very hard to deal with after W's last two moves.

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[go]$$Bm117 :w2:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . 2 . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X O O . O . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . , . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O O X O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . O O X X . X X . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . X X . . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X O O X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . . O 1 O O X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . O . X , . X . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . O X . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . O . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | X . X O X . . . O . X X O O . . X . . |
$$ | . X X X O . . . . . . O . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . . O X . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . O . . O . O X X . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

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[go]$$Bm119 :w2:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X O O . O . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . , . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O O X O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . O O X X . X X . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . X X . . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X O O X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . . O X O O X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . O . X , . X . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . O X . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . O . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | X . X O X . . . O . X X O O . . X . . |
$$ | . X X X O . . . . . . O . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . . O X . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . O . . O . O X X . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . O 1 W X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

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[go]$$Bm119 :w2:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X O O . O . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . , . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O O X O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . O O X X . X X . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . X X . . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X O O X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . . O X O O X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . O . X , . X . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . O X . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . O . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | X . X O X . . . O . X X O O . . X . . |
$$ | . X X X O . . . . . . O . . 2 O X . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . . O X . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . O . . O . O X X . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . O 1 W X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

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Just to remove the stone from the board to the lid. :)
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[go]$$Bm119 :w3:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X O O . O . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . , . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O O X O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . O O X X . X X . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . X X . . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X O O X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . . O X O O X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . O . X , . X . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . O X . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . O . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | X . X O X . . . O . X X O O . . X . . |
$$ | . X X X O . . . . . . O . . 2 O X . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . . O X . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . O . . O . O X X . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

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$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X O O . O . . O . . . . 1 X . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . , . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O O X O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . O O X X . X X . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . X X . . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X O O X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . . O X O O X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . O . X , . X . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . O X . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . O . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | X . X O X . . . O . X X O O . . X . . |
$$ | . X X X O . . . . . . O . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . . O X . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . O . . O . O X X . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

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$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X O O . O . . O . . . 2 1 X . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . , . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O O X O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . O O X X . X X . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . X X . . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X O O X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . . O X O O X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . O . X , . X . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . O X . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . O . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | X . X O X . . . O . X X O O . . X . . |
$$ | . X X X O . . . . . . O . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . . O X . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . O . . O . O X X . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

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