??. Magicwand (3d) vs. daniel_the_smith (1k)

Magicwand · **#241**

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wc W=2 B=0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . O . O . | $$ | . . X . . O . X . X X . . O . X O . . | $$ | . O O O . . . . . , O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X O . . . O . . . . X . X . . . O . | $$ | . . X X O X . . O . X . . . . X X O . | $$ | . O . . O X O . . . X . O . O O O X . | $$ | . . O . O X . X O . . X . X . . . X . | $$ | . O X X . X . X O O O X . X O . O X . | $$ | . . O X . X O O O . . O X O . , O X 3 | $$ | . . O X . . . . X O O . X . O . O 1 2 | $$ | . O X O X X O O X . . X . . . . . X . | $$ | . O X . X O O X X X X . . X O . O X . | $$ | . X . X O O . X O O O . X . X X O X . | $$ | . . . X X O . X . . X O . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . . O O O X O X O . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . O . X X X O . . O . . X X . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . . O . . . . O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

daniel_the_smith · **#242**

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wc W=2 B=0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . O . O . | $$ | . . X . . O . X . X X . . O . X O . . | $$ | . O O O . . . . . , O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X O . . . O . . . . X . X . . . O . | $$ | . . X X O X . . O . X . . . . X X O . | $$ | . O . . O X O . . . X . O . O O O X . | $$ | . . O . O X . X O . . X . X . . . X . | $$ | . O X X . X . X O O O X . X O . O X . | $$ | . . O X . X O O O . . O X O . , O X O | $$ | . . O X . . . . X O O . X . O . O O X | $$ | . O X O X X O O X . . X . . . . . X B | $$ | . O X . X O O X X X X . . X O . O X . | $$ | . X . X O O . X O O O . X . X X O X . | $$ | . . . X X O . X . . X O . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . . O O O X O X O . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . O . X X X O . . O . . X X . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . . O . . . . O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Magicwand · **#243**

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wc W=2 B=0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . O . O . | $$ | . . X . . O . X . X X . . O . X O . . | $$ | . O O O . . . . . , O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X O . . . O . . . . X . X . . . O . | $$ | . . X X O X . . O . X . . . . X X O . | $$ | . O . . O X O . . . X . O . O O O X . | $$ | . . O . O X . X O . . X . X . . . X . | $$ | . O X X . X . X O O O X . X O . O X . | $$ | . . O X . X O O O . . O X O . , O X O | $$ | . . O X . . . . X O O . X . O . O O X | $$ | . O X O X X O O X . . X . . . . . X X | $$ | . O X . X O O X X X X . . X O . O X . | $$ | . X . X O O . X O O O . X . X X O X . | $$ | . . . X X O . X . . X O . O . . W . . | $$ | . . . X O . . O O O X O X O . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . O . X X X O . . O . . X X . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . . O . . . . O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Violence · **#244**

FlameBlade · **#245**

Violence wrote:

Magicwand · **#246**

this is one variation.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc W=2 B=0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . O . O . | $$ | . . X . . O . X . X X . . O . X O . . | $$ | . O O O . . . . . , O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X O . . . O . . . . X . X . . . O . | $$ | . . X X O X . . O . X . . . . X X O . | $$ | . O . . O X O . . . X . O . O O O X . | $$ | . . O . O X . X O . . X . X . . . X . | $$ | . O X X . X . X O O O X . X O . O X . | $$ | . . O X . X O O O . . O X O . , O X O | $$ | . . O X . . . . X O O . X . O . O O X | $$ | . O X O X X O O X . . X . . 7 6 0 X X | $$ | . O X . X O O X X X X . . X W 5 O X . | $$ | . X . X O O . X O O O . X 4 X X O X . | $$ | . . . X X O . X . . X O . O 3 2 W 1 . | $$ | . . . X O . . O O O X O X O 8 X . . . | $$ | . . X . . O . X X X O . . O . . X X . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . . O . . . . O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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this is another variation.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc W=2 B=0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . O . O . | $$ | . . X . . O . X . X X . . O . X O . . | $$ | . O O O . . . . . , O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X O . . . O . . . . X . X . . . O . | $$ | . . X X O X . . O . X . . . . X X O . | $$ | . O . . O X O . . . X . O . O O O X . | $$ | . . O . O X . X O . . X . X . . . X . | $$ | . O X X . X . X O O O X . X O . O X . | $$ | . . O X . X O O O . . O X O . , O X O | $$ | . . O X . . . . X O O . X 0 O . O O X | $$ | . O X O X X O O X . . X . 8 . . . X X | $$ | . O X . X O O X X X X . 9 X O 6 O X . | $$ | . X . X O O . X O O O . X 4 X X O X . | $$ | . . . X X O . X . . X O . O 3 2 W 1 . | $$ | . . . X O . . O O O X O X O 5 X 7 . . | $$ | . . X . . O . X X X O . . O . . X X . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . . O . . . . O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

either way i get to live and black has no other way to avoid my life.

Harleqin · **#247**

daniel_the_smith · **#248**

Since commenting on the position is all the rage now...

daniel_the_smith · **#249**

I finished reading out B. I can't play it. Here is why:

Forced:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc W=2 B=0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . O . O . | $$ | . . X . . O . X . X X . . O . X O . . | $$ | . O O O . . . . . , O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X O . . . O . . . . X . X . . . O . | $$ | . . X X O X . . O . X . . . . X X O . | $$ | . O . . O X O . . . X . O . O O O X . | $$ | . . O . O X . X O . . X . X . . . X . | $$ | . O X X . X . X O O O X . X O . O X . | $$ | . . O X . X O O O . . O X O . , O X O | $$ | . . O X . . . . X O O . X . O 6 O O X | $$ | . O X O X X O O X . . X . . 5 4 3 X X | $$ | . O X . X O O X X X X . . X O 1 O X . | $$ | . X . X O O . X O O O . X . X X O X . | $$ | . . . X X O . X . . X O . O . . O 2 . | $$ | . . . X O . . O O O X O X O . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . O . X X X O . . O . . X X . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . . O . . . . O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Now black has a choice:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm7 W=3 B=0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . O . O . | $$ | . . X . . O . X . X X . . O . X O . . | $$ | . O O O . . . . . , O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X O . . . O . . . . X . X . . . O . | $$ | . . X X O X . . O . X . . . . X X O . | $$ | . O . . O X O . . . X . O . O O O X 4 | $$ | . . O . O X . X O . . X . X . . . X . | $$ | . O X X . X . X O O O X . X O . O X 3 | $$ | . . O X . X O O O . . O X O . , O X O | $$ | . . O X . . . . X O O . X . O O O O X | $$ | . O X O X X O O X . . X . . X O X X X | $$ | . O X . X O O X X X X . . X . X O X . | $$ | . X . X O O . X O O O . X . X X O X 1 | $$ | . . . X X O . X . . X O . O . . O O 2 | $$ | . . . X O . . O O O X O X O . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . O . X X X O . . O . . X X . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . . O . . . . O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

We can stop there (see the footnote), just count liberties: W 4, B 3 (on the upper portion of the group. I have to save everything, remember).

Or :b7:

can try this (which is the move I hadn't read out completely last night but now have):

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm7 W=3 B=0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . O . O . | $$ | . . X . . O . X . X X . . O . X O . . | $$ | . O O O . . . . . , O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X O . . . O . . . . X . X . . . O . | $$ | . . X X O X . . O . X . . . . X X O 0 | $$ | . O . . O X O . . . X . O . O O O X 6 | $$ | . . O . O X . X O . . X . X . . 8 X . | $$ | . O X X . X . X O O O X . X O . O X 3 | $$ | . . O X . X O O O . . O X O . , O X O | $$ | . . O X . . . . X O O . X . O O O O X | $$ | . O X O X X O O X . . X . . X O X X X | $$ | . O X . X O O X X X X . . X . X O X . | $$ | . X . X O O . X O O O . X . X X O X 2 | $$ | . . . X X O . X . . X O . O . 7 O O 1 | $$ | . . . X O . . O O O X O X O . X 9 5 4 | $$ | . . X . . O . X X X O . . O . . X X . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . . O . . . . O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Wait, crap, that works for me! Freaking reading (I must have subtracted a liberty from myself in my head). Now I have to double check everything and make absolutely certain this works-- and that there are no deviations.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm17 W=3 B=0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . O . O . | $$ | . . X . . O . X . X X . . O . X O . . | $$ | . O O O . . . . . , O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X O . . . O . . . . X . X . . . O . | $$ | . . X X O X . . O . X . . . . X X O O | $$ | . O . . O X O . . . X . O . O O O X O | $$ | . . O . O X . X O . . X . X . . O X 2 | $$ | . O X X . X . X O O O X . X O . O X X | $$ | . . O X . X O O O . . O X O . , O X 3 | $$ | . . O X . . . . X O O . X . O O O O X | $$ | . O X O X X O O X . . X . . X O X X X | $$ | . O X . X O O X X X X . . X . X O X . | $$ | . X . X O O . X O O O . X . X X O X O | $$ | . . . X X O . X . . X O . O . X O O 1 | $$ | . . . X O . . O O O X O X O . X X X O | $$ | . . X . . O . X X X O . . O . . X X . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . . O . . . . O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Footnote: I cannot get more liberties like this:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm11 W=3 B=0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . O . O . | $$ | . . X . . O . X . X X . . O . X O 6 . | $$ | . O O O . . . . . , O . . . . X 4 3 . | $$ | . X O . . . O . . . . X . X . . 5 O 2 | $$ | . . X X O X . . O . X . . . . X X O 1 | $$ | . O . . O X O . . . X . O . O O O X O | $$ | . . O . O X . X O . . X . X . . . X . | $$ | . O X X . X . X O O O X . X O . O X X | $$ | . . O X . X O O O . . O X O . , O X . | $$ | . . O X . . . . X O O . X . O O O O X | $$ | . O X O X X O O X . . X . . X O X X X | $$ | . O X . X O O X X X X . . X . X O X . | $$ | . X . X O O . X O O O . X . X X O X X | $$ | . . . X X O . X . . X O . O . . O O O | $$ | . . . X O . . O O O X O X O . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . O . X X X O . . O . . X X . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . . O . . . . O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

because white won't play :w16:

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Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm11 W=3 B=0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . O . O . | $$ | . . X . . O . X . X X . . O . X O . . | $$ | . O O O . . . . . , O . . 0 9 X 4 3 . | $$ | . X O . . . O . . . . X . X 8 7 5 O 2 | $$ | . . X X O X . . O . X . . . 6 X X O 1 | $$ | . O . . O X O . . . X . O . O O O X O | $$ | . . O . O X . X O . . X . X . . . X . | $$ | . O X X . X . X O O O X . X O . O X X | $$ | . . O X . X O O O . . O X O . , O X . | $$ | . . O X . . . . X O O . X . O O O O X | $$ | . O X O X X O O X . . X . . X O X X X | $$ | . O X . X O O X X X X . . X . X O X . | $$ | . X . X O O . X O O O . X . X X O X X | $$ | . . . X X O . X . . X O . O . . O O O | $$ | . . . X O . . O O O X O X O . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . O . X X X O . . O . . X X . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . . O . . . . O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

amnal · **#250**

daniel_the_smith wrote:

Since commenting on the position is all the rage now...

daniel_the_smith · **#251**

I found a refutation for my move. Note to self: Always read the simple things first.

Next I will see if I can force the previous result if I start from :w2:

below...

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc W=2 B=0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . O . O . | $$ | . . X . . O . X . X X . . O . X O . . | $$ | . O O O . . . . . , O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X O . . . O . . . . X . X . . . O . | $$ | . . X X O X . . O . X . . . . X X O . | $$ | . O . . O X O . . . X . O . O O O X . | $$ | . . O . O X . X O . . X . X . . . X . | $$ | . O X X . X . X O O O X . X O . O X . | $$ | . . O X . X O O O . . O X O . , O X O | $$ | . . O X . . . . X O O . X . O . O O X | $$ | . O X O X X O O X . . X . . . . 2 X X | $$ | . O X . X O O X X X X . . X O 1 O X . | $$ | . X . X O O . X O O O . X . X X O X . | $$ | . . . X X O . X . . X O . O 5 4 O 3 . | $$ | . . . X O . . O O O X O X O 6 X . . . | $$ | . . X . . O . X X X O . . O . . X X . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . . O . . . . O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

If I defend the bottom:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm7 W=2 B=0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . O . O . | $$ | . . X . . O . X . X X . . O . X O . . | $$ | . O O O . . . . . , O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X O . . . O . . . . X . X . . . O . | $$ | . . X X O X . . O . X . . . . X X O . | $$ | . O . . O X O . . . X . O . O O O X . | $$ | . . O . O X . X O . . X . X . . . X . | $$ | . O X X . X . X O O O X . X O . O X . | $$ | . . O X . X O O O . . O X O . 0 O X O | $$ | . . O X . . . . X O O . X 8 O . O O X | $$ | . O X O X X O O X . . X 9 7 3 4 O X X | $$ | . O X . X O O X X X X . 6 X O X O X . | $$ | . X . X O O . X O O O . X 2 X X O X . | $$ | . . . X X O . X . . X O . O X O O X . | $$ | . . . X O . . O O O X O X O O X 1 . . | $$ | . . X . . O . X X X O . . O . . X X . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . . O . . . . O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

White lives ( :b11:

fills in). No good.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc W=2 B=0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . O . O . | $$ | . . X . . O . X . X X . . O . X O . . | $$ | . O O O . . . . . , O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X O . . . O . . . . X . X . . . O . | $$ | . . X X O X . . O . X . . . . X X O . | $$ | . O . . O X O . . . X . O . O O O X . | $$ | . . O . O X . X O . . X . X . . . X . | $$ | . O X X . X . X O O O X . X O . O X . | $$ | . . O X . X O O O . . O X O . , O X O | $$ | . . O X . . . . X O O . X . O . O O X | $$ | . O X O X X O O X . . X . . 1 . 2 X X | $$ | . O X . X O O X X X X . . X O X O X . | $$ | . X . X O O . X O O O . X . X X O X 7 | $$ | . . . X X O . X . . X O . O X O O X 6 | $$ | . . . X O . . O O O X O X O O X 2 4 5 | $$ | . . X . . O . X X X O . . O . 3 X X . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . . O . . . . O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

And I lose the capturing race.

daniel_the_smith · **#252**

Sorry I'm so slow with the last few moves.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wc W=2 B=0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . O . O . | $$ | . . X . . O . X . X X . . O . X O . . | $$ | . O O O . . . . . , O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X O . . . O . . . . X . X . . . O . | $$ | . . X X O X . . O . X . . . . X X O . | $$ | . O . . O X O . . . X . O . O O O X . | $$ | . . O . O X . X O . . X . X . . . X . | $$ | . O X X . X . X O O O X . X O . O X . | $$ | . . O X . X O O O . . O X O . , O X O | $$ | . . O X . . . . X O O . X . O . O O X | $$ | . O X O X X O O X . . X . . . . . X X | $$ | . O X . X O O X X X X . . X O . O X . | $$ | . X . X O O . X O O O . X . X X O X . | $$ | . . . X X O . X . . X O . O . . O B . | $$ | . . . X O . . O O O X O X O . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . O . X X X O . . O . . X X . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . . O . . . . O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Magicwand · **#253**

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wc W=2 B=0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . O . O . | $$ | . . X . . O . X . X X . . O . X O . . | $$ | . O O O . . . . . , O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X O . . . O . . . . X . X . . . O . | $$ | . . X X O X . . O . X . . . . X X O . | $$ | . O . . O X O . . . X . O . O O O X . | $$ | . . O . O X . X O . . X . X . . . X . | $$ | . O X X . X . X O O O X . X O . O X . | $$ | . . O X . X O O O . . O X O . , O X O | $$ | . . O X . . . . X O O . X . O . O O X | $$ | . O X O X X O O X . . X . . . . . X X | $$ | . O X . X O O X X X X . . X O . O X . | $$ | . X . X O O . X O O O . X 3 X X O X . | $$ | . . . X X O . X . . X O . O 2 1 O X . | $$ | . . . X O . . O O O X O X O . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . O . X X X O . . O . . X X . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . . O . . . . O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

no problem for late move.

daniel_the_smith · **#254**

Time for another late move

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I can try this :b1:

to try and give up some stones while catching the rest, but white can resist. I'm not 100% sure who wins this race:

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The other way I die, white wins this race:

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can't be at :b5:

for reasons mentioned previously.

If white decides to take only the four stones then I will have to count, white will have gained a lot.

Magicwand · **#255**

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daniel_the_smith · **#256**

OK now I can resign. Thanks for the game.

I think I need a break before we play again at 4 stones. :cry:

daniel_the_smith · **#257**

k43r wrote:

Lol, awesome, I don't know how I failed to notice that...

Magicwand · **#258**

thank your for the game.
i will be away on month of OCT will be back in beginning of NOV.

we will start the game when i return from the mission.

edit: after reviewing the games and comments...
wow..i pulled off an upset. solid play from DS for the most part.
he lost one stone on the bottom, one stone one the left and finally he lost more than 2 stone at the end.

i dont think i am qualified to be 4d in KGS.
i have seen too many mistakes on my reading.
i think i won not because i am strong but because of my experience.
as i said before i spent 20 years of my life playing against weaker players for money 7 days / week.
i had to give them enough handycap to play them.
it gave me a playing style that is sticky and resilent. very hard for a weaker player to play against.

this game was for the learning purpose but since i played so badly i guess it is more like an exbition purpose.
i hope people can salvage some learning from this game if any.

Daniel: you dont have to play me 4 stone if you dont want.
next time i think 2 stone is plenty handycap for you.
also, i think you will learn more my playing 2 stone handycap in my opinion.

observers: as you already know i was losing this game beginning to end and never lead until he missed killing my group. please excuse false comments about me winning this game. those comments were to motivate myself on taugh game.

Harleqin · **#259**

Can White really live here?

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Magicwand · **#260**

Harleqin wrote:

Can White really live here?

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i am not sure but assuming 1 & 2 exchange...i think it was a good possiblity.

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