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Offline uriel
 Post subject: Re: #224. graemy vs uriel
Post #81 Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:49 am 
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[go]$$Wcm58 Captures: B=0 W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X O O X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . B 1 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I don't want to give up sente like this, but turning black in the center is too big now I think

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Offline graemy
 Post subject: Re: #224. graemy vs uriel
Post #82 Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 7:43 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm58 Captures: B=0 W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X O O X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O X 2 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Can't do much else here. I plan on poking at his shape after seeing what he does here.

like playing at a or looking to see what I can get at b.
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[go]$$Wcm58 Captures: B=0 W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X O O X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O X 2 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . b . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . . a . O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Offline uriel
 Post subject: Re: #224. graemy vs uriel
Post #83 Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 8:58 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm60 Captures: B=0 W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X O O X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 1 X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O X B . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I think I may have caught up. Black has 50 points, I have 20 points, but I have a lot of influence now. Here's where I envision:
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[go]$$Wcm60 Captures: B=0 W=0\n\n Maybe white is too thin to play here, but I think I have no other choice
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X O O X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . 2 . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 1 X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . a O X B . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . 3 . X . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Connecting at a would be much too passive, as nice as it is. I cannot afford to let black settle in my influence

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[go]$$Wcm60 Captures: B=0 W=0\n\n This is too painful for white, very hard to come back here
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X O O X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . 2 . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 1 X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 3 O X B . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . 4 . , . . . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline graemy
 Post subject: Re: #224. graemy vs uriel
Post #84 Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 7:21 am 
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[go]$$Wcm60 Captures: B=0 W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X O O X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . 2 . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I think the double hane might have been too much because he can force a couple more times here. He gets too much. The game is still alright, probably evenish with me having a territorial lead right now. But this exchange is bad for me.
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[go]$$Wcm60 Captures: B=0 W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X O O X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 4 . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 3 2 . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , 1 B . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Offline uriel
 Post subject: Re: #224. graemy vs uriel
Post #85 Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:21 am 
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[go]$$Wcm62 Captures: B=0 W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X O O X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . B . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . 1 . X . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Here we go again... There's just no time to connect my stones in the center, this move is too urgent

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Offline graemy
 Post subject: Re: #224. graemy vs uriel
Post #86 Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 10:09 am 
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[go]$$Wcm62 Captures: B=0 W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X O O X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . 2 , . . . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O . X . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I'm trying to aim at the cut of a, playing tightly like this to gain influence in sente. I'm focusing more on the marked stone because the corner is still open, so maybe I can still do something there.
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[go]$$Wcm62 Captures: B=0 W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X O O X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . a O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . 2 , . . . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . b . . X . . O . B . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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 Post subject: Re: #224. graemy vs uriel
Post #87 Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 11:06 am 
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[go]$$Wcm64 Captures: B=0 W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X O O X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . 1 B , . . . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O . X . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I must keep black seperated, but I don't think cutting the small knight is feasible yet

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Offline graemy
 Post subject: Re: #224. graemy vs uriel
Post #88 Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 1:00 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm64 Captures: B=0 W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X O O X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O X 2 . . . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O . X . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

If he connects, I hane, if he extends, I cut.
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Offline graemy
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Post #89 Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 2:55 pm 
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I've pmed my opponent, but it seems he is nowhere to be found. D:
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Offline The Intrepid
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Post #90 Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 4:23 pm 
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School started, so maybe that's why he is missing in action. I hope the game resumes, for it's been a fun one, so far.

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Offline uriel
 Post subject: Re: #224. graemy vs uriel
Post #91 Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 2:19 pm 
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Sorry about the long wait graemy (and observers), I was gone a bunch recently and forgot about the game :oops: . I'll be sure to let you know next time I need a short break or something.

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[go]$$Wcm66 Captures: B=0 W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X O O X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O X B . . . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X 1 . O . X . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


At one point I actually read through quite a lot for this move, one would hope given how long I've taken. I don't remember all my sequences, but from what I recall this is locally fine. I'm not too concerned with the peep under my tiger's mouth yet, and I think I need the extra strength in the area to make this okay.

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Post #92 Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 2:52 pm 
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Haha, it's fine, I was worried O:

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[go]$$Wcm66 Captures: B=0 W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X O O X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 2 O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O X X . . . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O . O . X . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Let's cut, he didn't defend there, so why not? It looks like it could be fun. My stone in the lower left isn't completely dead and has aji. Maybe I can kill in the lower right? Probably he will live.
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Post #93 Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 3:28 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm68 Captures: B=0 W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X O O X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . B O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 1 O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O X X . . . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O . O . X . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


No tricks here, I cannot let black get a ponnuki in the center

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Post #94 Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 3:59 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm68 Captures: B=0 W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X O O X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 2 O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O X X . . . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O . O . X . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

This is probably crazy to play :I but it's fun
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Post #95 Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 11:05 pm 
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Sorry it's taking me so long, I'm away from home again for a couple days and I want to take the time to read this move out. I may not post until Sunday

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Take as long as you need. It's alright.
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Post #97 Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 12:44 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm70 Captures: B=0 W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X O O X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . B O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O X X . . . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O . O . X . 1 . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Well... this is looking pretty bad for my group here. I didn't see :b69: at all, now I might be lucky to live here.

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Post #98 Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 11:26 am 
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[go]$$Wcm70 Captures: B=0 W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X O O X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O X X . . . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O . O . X . O . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 2 . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I'm gonna try and be a little aggressive here, maybe I can make him run and then try to make some gain that way. If he just responds, he may die... it's complicated.

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[go]$$Wcm70 Captures: B=0 W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X O O X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 2 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O X X . . . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O . O . X . O . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . B W . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I think this move can take the corner for black.
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Post #99 Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 12:18 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm72 Captures: B=0 W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X O O X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . 1 . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O X X . . . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O . O . X . O . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . B . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Bcm73 Captures: B=0 W=0\n\n This is the only life I see for white here, as ugly as it is.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X O O X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . 1 W . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 3 2 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O X X . 4 . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O . O . X . O . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . B . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Bcm73 Captures: B=0 W=0\n\n This doesn't really seem good for black, and I don't think black can afford to omit :b73:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X O O X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 6 X O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . 1 W . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 5 4 2 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O X X . 3 . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O . O . X . O . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . B . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #100 Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 11:04 am 
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Sorry for taking so long.

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[go]$$Wcm72 Captures: B=0 W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X O O X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . 2 O . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O X X . . . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O . O . X . O . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Wcm72 Captures: B=0 W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X O O X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . a . X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . W X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 4 . X O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . 2 O . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 3 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O X X . 5 . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . B O . O . X . O . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I think I'm gonna play like this and see what I can do with the marked stone. Although, I worry about the marked white stone, so I may just play at 1 to take it. I think moving the marked black stone first could be better. We'll see.
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