This is getting to be a little sad
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| Author: | MarkSteere [ Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Oust - Topazg vs Mark Steere |
In order to hang onto sente, you have to take hostages such as A9 and L1, i.e. groups you can kill whenever you want. Otherwise sente will change hands every few turns. |
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| Author: | topazg [ Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:34 pm ] |
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| Author: | MarkSteere [ Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:40 pm ] |
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| Author: | tj86430 [ Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:11 pm ] |
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What happened at move 41? How does one get from this: to this: |
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| Author: | MarkSteere [ Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:58 pm ] |
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Thank you for your question, tj. I went back and edited move 41 for clarity. |
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| Author: | topazg [ Wed Mar 14, 2012 7:12 am ] |
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| Author: | MarkSteere [ Wed Mar 14, 2012 7:25 am ] |
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| Author: | topazg [ Wed Mar 14, 2012 7:40 am ] |
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| Author: | hyperpape [ Wed Mar 14, 2012 7:51 am ] |
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How do you play Hex Oust, Mark? That is, how do you handle viewing the boards when you're playing online? |
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| Author: | MarkSteere [ Wed Mar 14, 2012 7:57 am ] |
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It's still possible for me to lose sente and for Topazg to break out from the upper right, consuming my diagonal of singletons. I'm trying not to feel confident because confidence is just bad karma in Oust. |
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| Author: | MarkSteere [ Wed Mar 14, 2012 8:15 am ] |
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hyperpape wrote: How do you play Hex Oust, Mark? That is, how do you handle viewing the boards when you're playing online? Sorry, I don't understand your question. Hex Oust is implemented at the following sites: 1. Arty Sandler's iggc. 2. Christian Freeling's MindSports. 3. Wesley Tanaka's gwc. |
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| Author: | topazg [ Wed Mar 14, 2012 9:08 am ] |
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Nono, feel confident, this is definitely a snafu for me... |
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| Author: | hyperpape [ Wed Mar 14, 2012 9:38 am ] |
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That's the answer I needed. I didn't realize the game was implemented at those places. |
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| Author: | MarkSteere [ Wed Mar 14, 2012 10:14 am ] |
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| Author: | topazg [ Wed Mar 14, 2012 10:28 am ] |
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| Author: | MarkSteere [ Wed Mar 14, 2012 11:00 am ] |
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| Author: | topazg [ Thu Mar 15, 2012 2:21 am ] |
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This is getting to be a little sad
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| Author: | MarkSteere [ Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:19 am ] |
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topazg wrote: This is getting to be a little sad Yes and no  It's been a steady massacre for the past several moves, and Black seems to have the advantage, but a more skilled player than I could possibly turn this around for White. Your beginner folly was killing everything within reach. Classic "if it seems too good to be true, it probably is." Don't do it. Oust is counter-intuitive. Though it's a game of annihilation, you're better off not killing anything until you really have to, rule of thumb. Corey Clark, the current top player, has no qualms about killing on turn 4 (but will then refrain from killing for a while). Rod Jackson, who lives with his mom in Australia, led the charge in Oust strategy before he joined a government labor program and left us to our own devices. I wouldn't want Rod taking over for you right now  [Rod would typically force you to kill one of his singletons early on. If you didn't do it, he'd get a 3-group while you still only have singletons, a big advantage. So you'd kill it, get overpopulated, and lose anyway.]Oust is a very brutal game. You have to not only take hostages, but torture them as well (see current move). As Rod would often say, "It takes nerves of steel." I really don't have nerves of steel. I've often declined games of Oust because I simply wasn't up to it. Playing Rod, you'd get punched against the ropes until you died standing up, ruining the whole rest of your day, no matter how early in the morning it happened. |
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| Author: | topazg [ Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Oust - Topazg vs Mark Steere |
Yeah, I can imagine - I think I'm going to resign here. So far, I'm very impressed with Oust - it looks like it could be a really interesting and deep game to get into! |
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| Author: | MarkSteere [ Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Oust - Topazg vs Mark Steere |
topazg wrote: Yeah, I can imagine - I think I'm going to resign here. Perfectly reasonable. Thanks for playing. topazg wrote: So far, I'm very impressed with Oust - it looks like it could be a really interesting and deep game to get into! Thanks I've been jonesing for a game of hex Oust with Corey, but he's another one who's chosen the path of employment over Oust play.
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