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 Post subject: Re: Batoo-kovitch #4: Dusk Eagle vs illluck
Post #41 Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 6:40 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Score - B:49, W:30
$$ +-----------------------+
$$ | . . . . . p . . . . . |
$$ | . . . W B . . . . . . |
$$ | . . m W . . . . m B . |
$$ | . . W . . . W B B W . |
$$ | . X B W . B . W W . W |
$$ | B . B B . B . . . W p |
$$ | . B W W . B . . . . . |
$$ | . W B W . . . . W . . |
$$ | . W m W . B . W m . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . B . . . . . |
$$ +-----------------------+[/go]

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Each of us woke up one moment and here we were in the darkness.
We're nameless things with no memory; no knowledge of what went before,
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Post #42 Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 4:08 pm 
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Man, that was tricky XD

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[go]$$Bcm1 Score - B:49, W:30
$$ +-----------------------+
$$ | . . . . . p . . . . . |
$$ | . . . W B . . X . . . |
$$ | . . m W . . . . m B . |
$$ | . . W . . . W B B W . |
$$ | . X B W . B . W W . W |
$$ | B . B B . B . . . W p |
$$ | . B W W . B . . . . . |
$$ | . W B W . . . . W . . |
$$ | . W m W . B . W m . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . B . . . . . |
$$ +-----------------------+[/go]


Suddenly the game looks very hard again, but at least I don't have to worry about the hidden moves. I think I can probably still live, but the minus point might make it painful. I also wonder if it would be worth it to give up the corner and force white to take minus point and allow me to get the plus point, but I don't have any particular sequences planned as there are quite a few different attacks on my upper right group.

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Post #43 Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:00 am 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Score - B:49, W:31
$$ +-----------------------+
$$ | . . . . . p . . . . . |
$$ | . . . W B . . X . . . |
$$ | . . m W . . . O m B . |
$$ | . . W . . . W B B W . |
$$ | . X B W . B . W W . W |
$$ | B . B B . B . . . W p |
$$ | . B W W . B . . . . . |
$$ | . W B W . . . . W . . |
$$ | . W m W . B . W m . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . B . . . . . |
$$ +-----------------------+[/go]

Let's force him to lose 5 points.

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Post #44 Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:27 am 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Score - B:45, W:31
$$ +-----------------------+
$$ | . . . . . p . . . . . |
$$ | . . . W B . . B . . . |
$$ | . . m W . . . W X B . |
$$ | . . W . . . W B B W . |
$$ | . X B W . B . W W . W |
$$ | B . B B . B . . . W p |
$$ | . B W W . B . . . . . |
$$ | . W B W . . . . W . . |
$$ | . W m W . B . W m . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . B . . . . . |
$$ +-----------------------+[/go]


Painful but necessary - I can't give up the corner. At least I think I live due to G7 cut.

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Post #45 Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 8:58 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Score - B:45, W:32
$$ +-----------------------+
$$ | . . . . . p . . . . . |
$$ | . . . W B . . B . . . |
$$ | . . m W . . O W B B . |
$$ | . . W . . . W B B W . |
$$ | . X B W . B . W W . W |
$$ | B . B B . B . . . W p |
$$ | . B W W . B . . . . . |
$$ | . W B W . . . . W . . |
$$ | . W m W . B . W m . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . B . . . . . |
$$ +-----------------------+[/go]

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Each of us woke up one moment and here we were in the darkness.
We're nameless things with no memory; no knowledge of what went before,
No understanding of what is now, no knowledge of what will be.

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Post #46 Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:04 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Score - B:46, W:32
$$ +-----------------------+
$$ | . . . . . p . . . . . |
$$ | . . . W B . B B . . . |
$$ | . . m W . . W W B B . |
$$ | . . W . . . W B B W . |
$$ | . X B W . B . W W . W |
$$ | B . B B . B . . . W p |
$$ | . B W W . B . . . . . |
$$ | . W B W . . . . W . . |
$$ | . W m W . B . W m . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . B . . . . . |
$$ +-----------------------+[/go]


Proper would probably be to protect at K10 instead, but then it seems like white will get the plus point in sente. So I have to play this and risk the clamp.

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Post #47 Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:44 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Score - B:46, W:33
$$ +-----------------------+
$$ | . . . . . p . . . . . |
$$ | . . . W B . B B . . . |
$$ | . . m W O . W W B B . |
$$ | . . W . . . W B B W . |
$$ | . X B W . B . W W . W |
$$ | B . B B . B . . . W p |
$$ | . B W W . B . . . . . |
$$ | . W B W . . . . W . . |
$$ | . W m W . B . W m . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . B . . . . . |
$$ +-----------------------+[/go]

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We don't know who we are; we don't know where we are.
Each of us woke up one moment and here we were in the darkness.
We're nameless things with no memory; no knowledge of what went before,
No understanding of what is now, no knowledge of what will be.

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Post #48 Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:41 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Score - B:47, W:33
$$ +-----------------------+
$$ | . . . . . p . . . . . |
$$ | . . . W B . B B . X . |
$$ | . . m W W . W W B B . |
$$ | . . W . . . W B B W . |
$$ | . X B W . B . W W . W |
$$ | B . B B . B . . . W p |
$$ | . B W W . B . . . . . |
$$ | . W B W . . . . W . . |
$$ | . W m W . B . W m . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . B . . . . . |
$$ +-----------------------+[/go]

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Post #49 Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 6:47 am 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Score - B:47, W:34
$$ +-----------------------+
$$ | . . . . . p . . . . . |
$$ | . . . W B . B B . B . |
$$ | . . m W W . W W B B . |
$$ | . . W . . . W B B W . |
$$ | . X B W O B . W W . W |
$$ | B . B B . B . . . W p |
$$ | . B W W . B . . . . . |
$$ | . W B W . . . . W . . |
$$ | . W m W . B . W m . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . B . . . . . |
$$ +-----------------------+[/go]

I want to profit from his group only having one eye in the center right now.

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Post #50 Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:23 am 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Score - B:48, W:34
$$ +-----------------------+
$$ | . . . . . p . . . . . |
$$ | . . . W B . B B . B . |
$$ | . . m W W . W W B B . |
$$ | . . W . . . W B B W . |
$$ | . B B W W B . W W . W |
$$ | B . B B X B . . . W p |
$$ | . B W W . B . . . . . |
$$ | . W B W . . . . W . . |
$$ | . W m W . B . W m . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . B . . . . . |
$$ +-----------------------+[/go]

Not much choice here - later (perhaps even now) white has to come back and add a move or else I have either a cut or capture the two stones. However, if white protects corner I have to be careful because I'm not fully alive.

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Post #51 Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:25 am 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Score - B:48, W:35
$$ +-----------------------+
$$ | . . . . . p . . . . . |
$$ | . . . W B . B B . B . |
$$ | . . m W W . W W B B . |
$$ | . O W . . . W B B W . |
$$ | . B B W W B . W W . W |
$$ | B . B B B B . . . W p |
$$ | . B W W . B . . . . . |
$$ | . W B W . . . . W . . |
$$ | . W m W . B . W m . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . B . . . . . |
$$ +-----------------------+[/go]

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Each of us woke up one moment and here we were in the darkness.
We're nameless things with no memory; no knowledge of what went before,
No understanding of what is now, no knowledge of what will be.

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Post #52 Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 1:26 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Score - B:49, W:35
$$ +-----------------------+
$$ | . . . . . p . . . . . |
$$ | . . . W B . B B . B . |
$$ | . . m W W . W W B B . |
$$ | . W W . . . W B B W . |
$$ | . B B W W B . W W . W |
$$ | B . B B B B . . . W p |
$$ | . B W W . B . . . . . |
$$ | . W B W . . . . W . . |
$$ | . W m W . B . W m . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . B . . . . . |
$$ +-----------------------+[/go]

I misread before - there is no capture/connection because if I atari at E8 the connection is an atari on my stone :(

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Post #53 Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 1:46 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Score - B:49, W:36
$$ +-----------------------+
$$ | . . . . . p . . . . . |
$$ | . . . W B . B B . B . |
$$ | . . m W W . W W B B . |
$$ | . W W . . . W B B W . |
$$ | . B B W W B . W W . W |
$$ | B . B B B B . . . W p |
$$ | . B W W . B . . . . . |
$$ | . W B W . . . . W . . |
$$ | . W m W . B . W m . . |
$$ | . . B O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . B . . . . . |
$$ +-----------------------+[/go]

I've been reading this move in my head for a while now, and I think I'm fine, but I didn't study it especially closely, which could mean I'm missing something.

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Post #54 Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:26 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Score - B:50, W:36
$$ +-----------------------+
$$ | . . . . . p . . . . . |
$$ | . . . W B . B B . B . |
$$ | . . m W W . W W B B . |
$$ | . W W . . . W B B W . |
$$ | . B B W W B . W W . W |
$$ | B . B B B B . . . W p |
$$ | . B W W . B . . . . . |
$$ | . W B W . . . . W . . |
$$ | . W m W . B . W m . . |
$$ | . . B W . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . B . . . . . |
$$ +-----------------------+[/go]

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Post #55 Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 5:21 am 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Score - B:50, W:37
$$ +-----------------------+
$$ | . . . . . p . . . . . |
$$ | . . . W B . B B . B . |
$$ | . . m W W . W W B B . |
$$ | . W W . . . W B B W . |
$$ | . B B W W B . W W . W |
$$ | B . B B B B . . . W p |
$$ | . B W W . B . . . . . |
$$ | . W B W . . . . W . . |
$$ | . W m W . B . W m . . |
$$ | . . B W O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . B . B . . . . . |
$$ +-----------------------+[/go]

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We don't know who we are; we don't know where we are.
Each of us woke up one moment and here we were in the darkness.
We're nameless things with no memory; no knowledge of what went before,
No understanding of what is now, no knowledge of what will be.

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Post #56 Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 7:13 am 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Score - B:51 W:37
$$ +-----------------------+
$$ | . . . . . p . . . . . |
$$ | . . . W B . B B . B . |
$$ | . . m W W . W W B B . |
$$ | . W W . . . W B B W . |
$$ | . B B W W B . W W . W |
$$ | B . B B B B . . . W p |
$$ | . B W W . B . . . . . |
$$ | . W B W . . . . W . . |
$$ | . W m W . B . W m . . |
$$ | . . B W W X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . B . B . . . . . |
$$ +-----------------------+[/go]

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Post #57 Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 9:29 am 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Score - B:51 W:38
$$ +-----------------------+
$$ | . . . . . p . . . . . |
$$ | . . . W B . B B . B . |
$$ | . . m W W . W W B B . |
$$ | . W W . . . W B B W . |
$$ | . B B W W B . W W . W |
$$ | B . B B B B . . . W p |
$$ | . B W W . B . . . . . |
$$ | . W B W . . . . W . . |
$$ | . W m W . B . W m . . |
$$ | . . B W W B . . . . . |
$$ | . . . B O B . . . . . |
$$ +-----------------------+[/go]

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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ +-----------------------+
$$ | . . . . . p . . . . . |
$$ | . . . W B . B B . B . |
$$ | . . m W W . W W B B . |
$$ | . W W . . . W B B W . |
$$ | . B B W W B . W W . W |
$$ | B . B B B B . . . W p |
$$ | . B W W . B . . . . . |
$$ | . W B W . . . . W . . |
$$ | . W m W . B . W m . . |
$$ | . . B W W B . X . . . |
$$ | . . . B W B . . . . . |
$$ +-----------------------+[/go]

I think his next move will be here to make two eyes, but I haven't decided exactly what sequence to play yet.

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Each of us woke up one moment and here we were in the darkness.
We're nameless things with no memory; no knowledge of what went before,
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Post #58 Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 11:32 am 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Score - B:52 W:38
$$ +-----------------------+
$$ | . . . . . p . . . . . |
$$ | . . . W B . B B . B . |
$$ | . . m W W . W W B B . |
$$ | . W W . . . W B B W . |
$$ | . B B W W B . W W . W |
$$ | B . B B B B . . . W p |
$$ | . B W W . B . . . . . |
$$ | . W B W . . . . W . . |
$$ | . W m W . B . W m . . |
$$ | . . B W W B . X . . . |
$$ | . . . B W B . . . . . |
$$ +-----------------------+[/go]


Well, I live, but it seems like white doesn't have to play the minus point on the left because capturing my D1 stone is sente to kill my group :(

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Post #59 Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 7:05 am 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Score - B:52 W:39
$$ +-----------------------+
$$ | . . . . . p . . . . . |
$$ | . . . W B . B B . B . |
$$ | . . m W W . W W B B . |
$$ | . W W . . . W B B W . |
$$ | . B B W W B . W W . W |
$$ | B . B B B B . . . W p |
$$ | . B W W . B . . . . . |
$$ | . W B W . . . . W . . |
$$ | . W m W . B . W m . . |
$$ | . . B W W B . X O . . |
$$ | . . . B W B . . . . . |
$$ +-----------------------+[/go]

He'll live, but I think I'll win.

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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ +-----------------------+
$$ | . . . . . 0 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . W B . B B . B . |
$$ | . . m W W . W W B B . |
$$ | 6 W W . . . W B B W . |
$$ | 9 B B W W B . W W . W |
$$ | B . B B B B . . . W p |
$$ | . B W W . B . . . . . |
$$ | . W B W . 5 4 . W . . |
$$ | . W m W . B 3 W 8 7 . |
$$ | . . B W W B . X W . . |
$$ | . . . B W B . 1 2 . . |
$$ +-----------------------+[/go]

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We don't know who we are; we don't know where we are.
Each of us woke up one moment and here we were in the darkness.
We're nameless things with no memory; no knowledge of what went before,
No understanding of what is now, no knowledge of what will be.

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Post #60 Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 7:38 am 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Score - B:53 W:39
$$ +-----------------------+
$$ | . . . . . p . . . . . |
$$ | . . . W B . B B . B . |
$$ | . . m W W . W W B B . |
$$ | . W W . . . W B B W . |
$$ | . B B W W B . W W . W |
$$ | B . B B B B . . . W p |
$$ | . B W W . B . . . . . |
$$ | . W B W . . . . W . . |
$$ | . W m W . B . W m . . |
$$ | . . B W W B . B W . . |
$$ | . . . B W B . X . . . |
$$ +-----------------------+[/go]

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