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Post #1 Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 1:35 pm 
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Should I also post noteworthy wins, or is there more 'bang for your buck' in just posting losses for review?


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Win or lose, we make our level's mistakes.
Some people have this funny idea that we make zero ( or much fewer ) mistakes in our won game, and that we make many more mistakes in our lost games.

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EdLee wrote:
Win or lose, we make our level's mistakes.

Well that was profound.

Thanks for the feedback, I'll post 'em up! :mrgreen:


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Post #4 Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 1:53 pm 
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sleepyEDB wrote:
Should I also post noteworthy wins, or is there more 'bang for your buck' in just posting losses for review?


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My strategy has usually been to avoid posting games in which I felt like I was in control from start to finish. My reasoning is that while I'm sure that I make mistakes in those games, as Ed says, the kinds of mistakes I make in those games are the kind that I make in all of my games. So, if I focus on games where I have a significant question or have no idea why I fell behind, I feel like I get those larger questions answered along with help on the normal mistakes. Some of those are wins.


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Post #5 Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 1:59 pm 
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Thanks, BlindGroup. That makes a lot of sense.


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Post #6 Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 2:35 pm 
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I remember a story which I think I read in an old Go World magazine (?), about how Kobayashi Koichi got reminded (the hard way) of the importance of reviewing even won games in detail.

According to my rusty memory, the story goes like this:
Kobayashi won a title game and did not bother to review the game in detail afterwards (partly because the game was the last one in a title match).
The game involved a complicated joseki turned into a whole side fight. Kobayashi's opponent (I believe was Cho Chikun) lost, and also missed a winning variation which neither of them noticed during the game (or during the post-game analysis).

Cho, being on the losing side, of course analyzed the game in detail by himself later, and found how he could not only stay in the game, but actually win quickly.
He played the same sequence in their next official game (different title); Kobayashi was puzzled but followed along, just to fall into the trap and to lose quickly :-)

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Post #7 Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2018 10:48 am 
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Review wins, got it. Thanks, sorin!


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