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Author: | Menezes [ Sun Apr 15, 2018 9:42 am ] |
Post subject: | Coming back after a while |
I've been off the grid for a while, since I had a kid three years ago. Now that my son is a little bigger and more independant, I'm thinking of coming back to the game. Problem is: I was never really good and, on top of that, I'm rusty. So I'm forgetting basic joseki patterns and tesuji. Direction of Play has always been a problem to me. Even more so now. Please take a look at my game and point out what I need to work on with more urgency. |
Author: | dfan [ Sun Apr 15, 2018 9:46 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Coming back after a while |
What color are you? |
Author: | EdLee [ Sun Apr 15, 2018 10:48 am ] |
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Hi Menezes, Welcome back. Both remember this sequence, up to here. Bad habit. Aji keshi. ( Self-reduce liberties, waste 1 ko threat, etc. ) This exchange good for , bad for . No problem; these days, AlphaGo ( and Leela, etc. ) would even 3-3 on directly ( or earlier! ) If you want Leela's winrates for 3-3 vs. jump out, you can now ask it. Strange. White has to keep an eye on B's huge moyo. But you're not too worried right now because of . The exact invasion point is difficult for humans. (*) This feeling will never go away, even for top humans ( vs. AZ ). Almost a pass. Take! L4. played 2 iffy moves ( , ) You're so happy to L4 and completely destroy his moyo. Instead, you return the favor and pass. No, take, the game move, is better. ( To quote Kageyama(?), when passed, your hand should tremble with anticipation to take! ) L3, has the ladder! Another pass. You have to be ready for push at P4, then atari-cut variation. Just drop at N2 is not small; if you also get N2 you're alive. This shape has issues ( what's your plan if hane-cut P5 ? ) , , , , What are these stones doing ? Important, otherwise R18 aji. Another pass. Didn't notice the result +36.5 until now. played too many passes, slow moves. Perhaps another game where your opponent fights back much more severely is more valuable. ( But we can still learn from our opponent's mistakes; e.g. bad habit, etc. ) You lose 2+ points here. Just D18 directly. Key question: can you kill ? If you're confident about your reading and fighting skills, you can go for the kill (say M12, etc.). 100 The timing of this move... (re: ) 124, 126 If your plan was 126, then push down at R5 directly on 124. _______ (*) Curious about Leela's evaluations. |
Author: | dfan [ Sun Apr 15, 2018 11:08 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: |
EdLee wrote: White has to keep an eye on B's huge moyo. But you're not too worried right now because of . The exact invasion point is difficult for humans. (*) This feeling will never go away, even for top humans ( vs. AZ ). _______ (*) Curious about Leela's evaluations. Leela Zero (latest network, #123) plays at C13 and already has White's win rate at 68.2%. The other move it considers strongly is the other 3-3 invasion (65.9%). |
Author: | EdLee [ Sun Apr 15, 2018 11:12 am ] |
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Quote: Leela Zero plays at C13 and already has White's win rate at 68.2%. Thanks, dfan. I suspect LZ ( and AZ ) evaluate as inefficient ( game losing ). Chinese opening, san ran sei, etc. will disappear from top pro games.
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Author: | Menezes [ Sun Apr 15, 2018 11:17 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Coming back after a while |
dfan wrote: What color are you? I'm sorry. I was white. |
Author: | Menezes [ Sun Apr 15, 2018 11:23 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: |
EdLee wrote: Hi Menezes, Welcome back. Both remember this sequence, up to here. Bad habit. Aji keshi. ( Self-reduce liberties, waste 1 ko threat, etc. ) This exchange good for , bad for . No problem; these days, AlphaGo ( and Leela, etc. ) would even 3-3 on directly ( or earlier! ) If you want Leela's winrates for 3-3 vs. jump out, you can now ask it. Strange. White has to keep an eye on B's huge moyo. But you're not too worried right now because of . The exact invasion point is difficult for humans. (*) This feeling will never go away, even for top humans ( vs. AZ ). Almost a pass. Take! L4. played 2 iffy moves ( , ) You're so happy to L4 and completely destroy his moyo. Instead, you return the favor and pass. No, take, the game move, is better. ( To quote Kageyama(?), when passed, your hand should tremble with anticipation to take! ) L3, has the ladder! _______ (*) Curious about Leela's evaluations. Thanks for the insights. I guess I could have done worse. What about the middle game and endgame? I didn't know what to ask, that's why there are no more comments on the sgf file. |
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