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 Post subject: Because we haven't had any games posted in a while: 6k v. 7k
Post #1 Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 5:36 pm 
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I had black in this game, and once again my opponent was able to find weaknesses in my moyo, and when I tried to do the same to him, what looked to be weaknesses turned out not to be. I ran the game through Leela, and the two moves of mine it really didn't like were :b33: (it wanted G3 instead of H2) and :b71: (it wanted me to keep running out instead of trying to make an eye). Generally, though, it just seemed like a slow loss.


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Post #2 Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 6:46 pm 
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Instinctive impressions on the early game:

:b5:: I'd play in the last corner.

:b13:: Not as big as approaching the upper left. White's F4 stone has so much space that I don't even really consider this to be a pincer.

:b21:: I haven't read anything out but my 5-seconds-of-thinking move is D4 and I suspect it would be my 120-seconds of thinking move too. This is your area, don't let him connect up so easily.

:b29:: I'd play C14 if I played on the left. White's wall is already overconcentrated even if he extends out to C8 from it. But honestly I'd probably treat C7 and C13 as miai and pincer the O17 stone or something.

:b37:: First instincts are D9 or D8. White's C9 stone should not be able to connect to E7 so easily.

:b43:: Overplay (and White punished you bad for it). The upper side is still the biggest area. D10 is a big shape point but maybe not urgent.

:b55:: What are you afraid of? Even if White splits you, both sides are strong. The upper side is still a huge swath of virgin territory and this move is a few points in gote or something.

I think the main takeaways are:
- Where are the big areas? (that upper side!)
- Fight where you are strong (e.g., at :b21:), don't start fights where you are weak (e.g., at :b43:).

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Post #3 Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 7:04 pm 
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Early part feels like a long doubtful combination of low stones: K3 (low and wrong direction, since LR is strong), C10 (low), D3 (low and passive), E3+G2 (low and lower, you willingly play into a position where W press you down), C7 (low), C13 (low and weak shape), H2 (low and passive).

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Post #4 Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 7:27 pm 
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Main point: Except for one premature invasion, excess passivity.


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Post #5 Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:52 pm 
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Regarding :b13:, I played where I did because I thought it was a good extension from the group in the lower right, and because I thought that's where White wanted to play. (Your opponent's best move is your best move and all that.) Plus, since the stone on the other side was on the 3-3 point, I didn't think I needed to play another stone in that corner just yet.

On :b21:, I tried to read it out and as best I could tell after the cross-cut I was going to lose the corner, which didn't seem appealing to me

On :b37:, since White already had influence in the center I wanted to make certain I got eye-space rather than getting a wall facing a bunch of my opponent's stones already there.

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Post #6 Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 2:03 pm 
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Fedya wrote:
Regarding :b13:, I played where I did because I thought it was a good extension from the group in the lower right,


It's too close to your strong group.

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and because I thought that's where White wanted to play. (Your opponent's best move is your best move and all that.)


Your opponent should want to pincer and confine your 3-3 point. Later, after the Black extension on the left side, he attached.

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Plus, since the stone on the other side was on the 3-3 point, I didn't think I needed to play another stone in that corner just yet.


The danger with the 3-3 opening is being forced to make small life.

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On :b21:, I tried to read it out and as best I could tell after the cross-cut I was going to lose the corner, which didn't seem appealing to me


I hope it's more appealing now. :)

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On :b37:, since White already had influence in the center I wanted to make certain I got eye-space rather than getting a wall facing a bunch of my opponent's stones already there.


The fight after the hane on top is not easy. Still, your instinct should be to attack the single White stone rather than submissively crawling underneath.

Moi wrote:
Ask not what your opponent can do to you,
ask what you can do to your opponent.

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Post #7 Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 2:11 pm 
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Hi Bill,
That's a nice JFK mnemonic.
Good for our local members who tend to play too timidly, softly, defensively, etc.
Do you have something similar for the other spectrum:
reckless overplay, complete disregard for one's own weaknesses ?

Thanks. :)

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Post #8 Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 5:46 pm 
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Hi, Ed.

It's hard to beat Jowa's advice: viewtopic.php?f=15&t=7508
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