Board should atleast have portrait/landscape option. Portrait style with larger controls at bottom could solve lot of troubles related to mobile devices. Ergonomically designed board can save lot of left/right scroll as well as taps, and eventually Emacs pinky type of diseases.

vi guy here.

( But yes, this interface wasn't designed for tiny screens. )

This comment stood out to me. Are you saying that because you have seen r9 played in the Chinese opening, you thought it would be good here? But there's already a white stone at q10 which makes a huge difference (and lower right is not a 3-4 like in Chinese opening). The Chinese opening with its characteristic move at r9 doesn't mean the r9 co-ordinate is always a good idea! That's like saying because you once had a nice picnic in a field a year ago the exact same GPS coordinate is a good idea for a picnic now, ignoring the fact it has since been turned into a road and a juggernaut is bearing down on you about to crush you to death (like white q10). The relationship of a stone to nearby ones is far more important that the coordinate (the coordinate does have some unchanging effect in that it describes how far from the edge a position is, and a stone on the 3rd line in isolation has certain characteristics of stability/territory/base-making).

Hi xoxox,Follow-up to post 23: did you mean you saw R9 with Q10 ? Or without Q10 ?

In Go discussions, when we say "this move", we usually mean "this move in this local context ( and sometimes in this global context )". So I thought you meant you'd seen R9 with Q10 already in place.

@Uberdude
Yes, you are right. It was kind of an experimental move, even knowing that it is against all Go commansense. I don't know why I thought for a while and made that counterintuitive move knowing fully well it might not work well.

This probably happened because I was unable to decide whether it was a good move or bad in long run. My follow-up wasn't good and it didn't work well.

Your picnic analogy was pretty accurate but I ended up learning few more things about Go so all in all nice experience, learning from the mistakes.

@EdLee

Yes, I probably could have seen it without Q10 but some other stone in vicinity of R9. This subtle differences might make a big difference in the long run. It was local, not sure with or without Q10.

Hi xoxox,

Follow-up to "I've seen this move"...

One of the first corner patterns people encounter:

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[go]$$W Variation 1
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . 4 . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . 3 X . . . . . , . .
$$ | . . 1 2 . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ +------------------------[/go]

From my observation, quite a few people, having seen the above shape, would play the following hane:

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[go]$$W Variation 2
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . 4 . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . 3 X . . . . . , . .
$$ | . . 1 2 . O . X . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ +------------------------[/go]

When asked why , they'd reply "I've seen this move before..."
But they didn't realize in var 1 is very different from in var 2.
They are not the same move! If you were referring to Chinese opening variations, it's unlikely there were stones near R9 when played R9 ( and, as mentioned, your board was not a Chinese opening situation ). Like the hane example above, it may be educational if you could pinpoint the source ( a book, a video, etc. ), and compare it with your in the real game.Yes. It's not "subtle"; it's a huge difference. ( Re: picnic analogy )

Let me encourage you to experiment and to try out moves that may go against common sense or how other people play or advise. You have to develop your judgement, which is in the end all you can rely upon. As you point out, learning from mistakes is good.



You don't actually know whether your follow-up was good or bad. True, your line of play did not work out too well.





It's good to try things out, to learn from mistakes, and to explain your reasoning. But please understand, your (Edit: xoxox's) opinion is not worth much. Not yet, anyway.

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