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Post #1 Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:01 am 
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https://online-go.com/game/19545744
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White won, but for playing a 14k it went quite well for me, I think.
(I mostly play 14-16k or SDK, because they have pity on me and accept my challenges. Talking from these experiences, I thought he was very distracted. We both left business unattended and I nearly overlooked I can capture his group!)

He would not do a review, though.

Would you, please?



(I'm following Ed's advice to play/lose 500 games in 12 months.)


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Post #2 Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:29 am 
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Congratulations on your game! :)

Just a quick comment. There is a quirk of the corner that you might as well learn right now.

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[go]$$Bcm77 Black loses 1 pt.
$$ -------------------
$$ | X 1 X . X X O X . |
$$ | X O X X X O O O O |
$$ | O X . O X X X . . |
$$ | O X X , X X X X X |
$$ | O O O X X O X O O |
$$ | . O X X O O O O X |
$$ | X O X O O O X O X |
$$ | . O O . . O X X . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . |
$$ -------------------[/go]


:b77: lose 1 pt. of territory. That seem strange, because White threatens to capture the two Black stones in the corner. Please note that Black gets 2 pts. in the top left corner. But if Black passes she gets 3 pts. there.

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[go]$$Bcm77 White captures 2 stones
$$ -------------------
$$ | X 2 X . X X O X . |
$$ | X O X X X O O O O |
$$ | O X . O X X X . . |
$$ | O X X , X X X X X |
$$ | O O O X X O X O O |
$$ | . O X X O O O O X |
$$ | X O X O O O X O X |
$$ | . O O . . O X X . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . |
$$ -------------------[/go]


If Black passes, White can capture two Black stones.

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[go]$$Bcm77 Snapback
$$ -------------------
$$ | . O X . X X O X . |
$$ | 3 O X X X O O O O |
$$ | O X . O X X X . . |
$$ | O X X , X X X X X |
$$ | O O O X X O X O O |
$$ | . O X X O O O O X |
$$ | X O X O O O X O X |
$$ | . O O . . O X X . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . |
$$ -------------------[/go]


But after :w78: captures two stones, :b79: makes a snapback, capturing two White stones, for 5 pts. in the corner. Subtract 2 pts. for the two captured Black stones, and White's net score in the corner is 3 pts., as advertised. :)

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Post #3 Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 12:06 pm 
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Thank you, Bill!

I have tsumego where it says "Black to play. Play a snapback / throw-in."

Then, thinking carefully, I'm going "So if I go there he goes there, I go there and atari, and if he beats I will even get a stone more!".
Obviously I need to practice that...

I got time-pressured 3 times near the end, so I tried to play faster when I only had these 30sec intervals, but using 10-15sec per move is still very blitz for me...

This guy really should have told me why he did not play there :lol:
I thought he had overlooked it :roll:

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Post #4 Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 12:24 pm 
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:b49: at B2 wins the game. Do you see why?

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Post #5 Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:52 pm 
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jlt wrote:
:b49: at B2 wins the game. Do you see why?


Without using a board:
I think (black) B2 would cut off his left side and, with best play, kill the left group, since he can't make 2 eyes there. Right??

Without a board I can't guess what would happen with his lower right group, but I think that one is stronger and will live.

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Post #6 Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 12:26 am 
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Yes that's correct! :tmbup:

Other comment on your game: here are two basic bad shapes. Did one, or both of them occur in your game?

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[go]$$B bad shapes for black
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$$ . . X . . . X .
$$ . O O . . . O O
$$ . X . . . . X .
$$ . . . . . . . .[/go]

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Post #7 Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 8:25 am 
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Hi Jika,

I'm just a Kyu player myself and really not that strong regarding 9x9, so please take my comments with a truckload of salt, but I hope I could point out a few ideas, that might help you in your next games :)



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(sorry, the sgf-tag did not work somehow)

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