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Author:  breakfast [ Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:02 am ]
Post subject:  New system of the A league on KGS

We will start September League soon. Time to introduce the new system, which will be more attractive for top inseis

New system of the Insei League, A group

5 strongest inseis are in the supergroup, 10 inseis are in A group

Supergroup vs A group =maximum 1 game per month,
Supergroup vs supergroup = maximum 4 games per month
A group vs A group = maximum 4 games per month

Prizes for the supergroup (USD): 150, 100, 50
Prizes for A group: 100, 50
Best one from A group will promote to the supergroup. Lowest one in the supergroup will go down to A group next month.

Teachers can get prizes too: they have to play 30+ simultaneous every month.
Teacher has no right to refuse to play with any insei, but he may prefer to play some games as one by one games, instead of simultaneous.

Handicap:
Supergroup vs teachers = even games with 6.5 komi
A group vs teachers = 0.5 komi

Both in the supergroup and A group we will not count games, lost to teachers (same rule as in B-E groups). Also we will not count games lost by A group members to the supergroup members

If you want to get the prize in the supergroup, your number of supergroup vs supergroup games at the end of the month must be bigger than the number of vs A games.

As usual, you get +1% for every game played after 12 (same as in B-E groups). You have to play at least 12 insei vs insei games, if you would like to receive the prize at the end of the month

Why is it better than before?
1. All inseis can play with teachers without pressure: there is no reason to avoid such games
2. A group members can play supergroup members without pressure too
3. Top players have less games with weaker players and more games with inseis of equal strength – we will not see many 8d vs 2d games with predictable result
4. It was very hard for most A group members to challenge teachers in 6.5 komi games. They don’t have to pay komi anymore
5. It’s easier for inseis to win prizes

We have time to change the rules, so any feedback is welcome.

Also, we still have few empty spots for September - feel free to register!

Author:  ethanb [ Thu Aug 19, 2010 9:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: New system of the A league on KGS

breakfast wrote:

Supergroup vs A group =maximum 1 game per month,
Supergroup vs supergroup = maximum 4 games per month
A group vs A group = maximum 4 games per month

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If you want to get the prize in the supergroup, your number of supergroup vs supergroup games at the end of the month must be bigger than the number of vs A games.

As usual, you get +1% for every game played after 12 (same as in B-E groups). You have to play at least 12 insei vs insei games, if you would like to receive the prize at the end of the month



Did you mean to say minimum instead of maximum? You could actually mean maximum, but I'm a little confused about the last part if you did.

Author:  usagi [ Fri Aug 20, 2010 7:07 am ]
Post subject:  Re: New system of the A league on KGS

breakfast wrote:
We will start September League soon. Time to introduce the new system, which will be more attractive for top inseis


Thank you for making the league a better place. Let's hope that many more strong players join the league, which would remove the need for these kinds of complex rules.

Quote:
We have time to change the rules, so any feedback is welcome.


I think the rules are fine, but I am just dying to see the new rooms and start playing.

I'm also in the Advanced Study Room league, Gamma III room. I am aiming to promote with the best score. I wonder how I will do in the Korean Insei league?

When can we look for an update to the webpage? I am so anxious to see the new rooms and see who my partners will be. Thanks

Author:  breakfast [ Wed Sep 01, 2010 4:01 am ]
Post subject:  Re: New system of the A league on KGS

Successfully started:
The league is 100% filled now, but in E group we have 2 players who played in June, but did not prove yet that they plan to continue.
So, we will probably have 1-2 places for 5kyu-10kyu players: http://insei-league.com/league.php?l=E
Feel free to contact.

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