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Author:  PMyricest [ Sun Apr 22, 2018 10:26 am ]
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The Romanian federation voted to not allow 3 successful clubs to affiliate, see https://medium.com/@EuroGoHebdo/romania-vetoes-new-go-clubs-cd8a5fbb827f

Author:  Tryss [ Sun Apr 22, 2018 1:12 pm ]
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Be careful : this is satire, and shouldn't be taken seriously.

Author:  EdLee [ Sun Apr 22, 2018 1:18 pm ]
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Hi Tryss, Thanks.

Follow-up question: what's the actual affliation status of the three said clubs ?

Author:  PMyricest [ Sun Apr 22, 2018 1:25 pm ]
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All three clubs had their applications to join FRGO refused at a board meeting. I think it is quite serious actually.

Author:  Tryss [ Sun Apr 22, 2018 1:30 pm ]
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The rest of the articles on this site by the same author are definitively not serious :

https://medium.com/@EuroGoHebdo/identit ... 2cc24b85d4

https://medium.com/@EuroGoHebdo/french- ... 8febba60ea

Author:  EdLee [ Sun Apr 22, 2018 3:07 pm ]
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What are the real reasons ?

Author:  Kirgan [ Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:28 am ]
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The name Hebdo in the URL should be seen as hint to

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Hebdo

Author:  PMyricest [ Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:07 am ]
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EdLee wrote:
What are the real reasons ?

By real, do you mean the reasons given at the vote, or the real reasons behind those? For instance why CT might not be accepted as a national trainer.

Author:  Bonobo [ Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:45 am ]
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Please add “[SATIRE]” to the thread title, otherwise this is just fake news that should be reported.

Also, as I have said elsewhere already: not all that is fake deserves to be called “satire”.


Thanks in advance.

Author:  Pio2001 [ Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:25 pm ]
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Kirgan wrote:
The name Hebdo in the URL should be seen as hint to

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Hebdo


No, hebdo just means weekly in french. Nothing to do with Charlie Hebdo.

Author:  sorin [ Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:19 pm ]
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Bonobo wrote:
Please add “[SATIRE]” to the thread title, otherwise this is just fake news that should be reported.

Also, as I have said elsewhere already: not all that is fake deserves to be called “satire”.

Thanks in advance.


By the way, while the original article was written in satire style, it is unfortunately based on very real, recent events from the Romanian Go scene.

What happened there is that several "ghost clubs" have been officially created, which gave a small group of people larger than usual voting power in a recent official assembly of the national association (the model is "one vote per club").

People behind these ghost clubs used their voting power to deny official status to a few real clubs, leading to a recent scandal that surfaced one week ago or so.

Author:  Uberdude [ Wed Apr 25, 2018 7:45 am ]
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I can't help but think a factual account, as sorin posted, would have been more helpful and indeed likely to achieve the OP's presumed aims of raising awareness/concern than the obfuscated waffle version. Probably not as fun to write though.

Author:  PMyricest [ Wed Apr 25, 2018 11:15 am ]
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Uberdude wrote:
I can't help but think a factual account, as sorin posted, would have been more helpful and indeed likely to achieve the OP's presumed aims of raising awareness/concern than the obfuscated waffle version. Probably not as fun to write though.

Yes I suppose so, here is episode two: https://medium.com/@EuroGoHebdo/romania ... 72f2f10d65

Author:  Uberdude [ Thu Apr 26, 2018 5:13 am ]
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What is the document that was needed but not acquired? When I went to the WAGC I only needed a Chinese visa which I organised myself (with help from Haylee as IGF secretary to get the invitation letter). I know in some countries WAGC reps receive government support as quasi-athletes, so maybe something like this? Or just some extra bureacracy, surely Romanians don't need government permission to leave the country anymore?

Author:  HKA [ Thu Apr 26, 2018 6:20 am ]
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Uberdude wrote:
What is the document that was needed but not acquired? When I went to the WAGC I only needed a Chinese visa which I organised myself (with help from Haylee as IGF secretary to get the invitation letter). I know in some countries WAGC reps receive government support as quasi-athletes, so maybe something like this? Or just some extra bureacracy, surely Romanians don't need government permission to leave the country anymore?


I have to believe this is either very bad reporting or another joke. To my knowledge, the only non-Asian countries to place as high as third in the WAGC are Netherlands and USA. I also would think I would have heard of the player, but I am not as up to date on the European scene as others.

Author:  drmwc [ Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:34 am ]
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HKA wrote:

I have to believe this is either very bad reporting or another joke. To my knowledge, the only non-Asian countries to place as high as third in the WAGC are Netherlands and USA. I also would think I would have heard of the player, but I am not as up to date on the European scene as others.



Christian has finished fourth before.

Author:  Uberdude [ Thu Apr 26, 2018 8:26 am ]
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Cristian Pop (he's not a music genre!) 7d is one of the strongest players in Europe not to have made pro. He studied as an insei in Japan with Catalin Taranu (who made 5p) and is known for his magnificent central style. Seated bottom left, reviewing his game at the 2016 WAGC:
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Also Ukraine (Artem) and Argentina (Aguilar) have placed 3rd.

Author:  Uberdude [ Fri May 04, 2018 12:31 am ]
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I am glad to see this report was inaccurate as Cristian Pop is playing in the WAGC and won his first game versus Australia.

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