remotecontrol account

remotecontrol · #1

It will be good to make a record of study and track progress.

Currently as of March 2023, at or very near 1 dan.

Goal is to get the best that I've ever been at tsumego and tesuji, and hopefully make a solid 2 dan.

Going through Yamashito Keigo tesuji dictionary, its the new revision of Shuko's.

And Cho Chikun Encyclopedia of life and death - Intermediate, from tasuki's website.

I don't play regularly but sometimes get the urge and will play all day on the internet. Got +3 wins in total the other day which promoted me to 1 dan IGS. I tend not to stick to strict study plans after a few weeks ;-)

Here's a fun game against one of those anonymous computer terminal accounts probably in a go salon somewhere in Japan.

Not sure if I was being trolled by a stronger player or what happened but messed up choosing Q6 in the bottom right corner as didn't read and just crossed fingers and hoped instead.

Would like to be able to play like white one day, but alas I play like black.

edit: embedded sgf in the post and not external link. Got a review from ivoSF on KGS, a couple of main points that stuck with me was to play C11 (move 67) and make better shape at play F11 (move 97) as white has some weak points.

remotecontrol · #2

Probably best to split instead of a

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$B $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . , O . . . . , . . . O . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . a . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . X , . . . . X , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

extend at

instead of a

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$B $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O X X X . . . . . O X . X . . | $$ | . a O X O O X . X . O . . O O X . X . | $$ | . . . , O . . X . X . . . O X , X O . | $$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . O X X X O . | $$ | . . X . . . . O . . . . . O O X . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X . O . . | $$ | . . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . X O O O . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . O X X O . O | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . X X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . X , . . . . X , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

black

possible as white has weakness

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$B $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . X . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X O X X X . . . . . O X . X . . | $$ | . X O X O O X . X . O . . O O X . X . | $$ | . X O O O . . X . X . . . O X , X O . | $$ | . . X O . O . . X . . . . O X X X O . | $$ | . . X . . . . O O O . . . O O X . O . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . | $$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . O . X . O . . | $$ | . O X O X 1 . . . . . . . . X O O O . | $$ | . X X X O . . . . , . X O O X X O . O | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . X X . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . O . . X , . . . . X , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Knotwilg · #3

Moves I wouldn't play (didn't check with AI)

75 - gote
81 - too deep and a bit of ajikeshi
97 - I'd sacrifice, give a bit of that center to white and take sente to play at the lower side

kvasir · #4

Black looks alive at move 72 and then there is no need to add a move. Black could consider "a" instead but this can be cut and I'm not sure if it leaves useful aji, then black could consider "b" to "d" (or anything that comes to mind, really).

I think it was difficult for black to get a clear advantage in this game since his position was a bit thin, the weakness around "e" was there throughout most of the game, just waiting for white to strike, and the J4 stone was bit far from anything else. Basically, black might have been better but the thinness could make it more difficult take it to the end. Also, black only had one stone looking into the center and it is harder to play that way.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . O X X X . . . . . O X . X . . | $$ | . X O X O O X . X . O . . O O X . X . | $$ | . X O O O . . X . X . . . O X , X O . | $$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . O X X X O . | $$ | . . X . . . . O . . . . . O O X . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . | $$ | . . O a . . . . . . . . O . X . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O O . | $$ | . d . , . . . . . , . . . O X X O . O | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . X X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . e . . . | $$ | . . . , . b . . X , . . . . X , . . . | $$ | . . c . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

White appeared to get an ideal result from the first fight, outside stones and sente-ish threat to revive some stones. If black captures it looks like something white is happy with, capturing is big, though, and white also happy that black didn't capture. Instead of trying to breakdown the details of this fight I'll suggest something different.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . X . | $$ | . . . , O . . . . . . . . O X , X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . 1 . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . X , . . . . X , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Black's next move locally doesn't feel that important. White's stones can extend or jump and black can live in the corner but at the same time there are three similar corner waiting for a move. I think black shouldn't play anything! For example the next diagram might be found in any old book (or maybe not), in the second next black simply completes their other corner and is ready to deal with it when white adds a move in the first.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc computer is probably more likely to like 3-3 and play some hane, and you probably don't want to play all those moves before playing in another corner $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . 9 7 8 . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . 1 , O . 0 . . . . . . O . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . 3 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . 5 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . 6 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . X , . . . . X , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . , O . . . . . . . . O . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . X , . . . . X , 1 . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Btw, If both players keep playing elsewhere it will eventually be time to add a move in the first corner but at the moment the first move in this fight isn't that important since both players could keep playing away. Black got into a bit of a trouble here but could have averted this trouble by playing "nothing".

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc next black could live on the inside $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . , O . . . . . . . . O . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . X , . . . . X , . . . | $$ | . . 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Elom0 · #5

Why play D17 so early?

remotecontrol · #6

Elom0 wrote:

Why play D17 so early?

My reasoning was that if white gets a move around the left centre, then it may be too late.

Elom0 · #7

remotecontrol wrote:

Elom0 wrote:

Why play D17 so early?

My reasoning was that if white gets a move around the left centre, then it may be too late.

Hmm . . . Unless I have the wrong idea, I thought that you're supposed to play something like that right after white moves on the left. Let white commit first then move in in a way that counters it. White needs two moves on the left, and they say invade when there's one move left, right?

remotecontrol · #8

Elom0 wrote:

Hmm . . . Unless I have the wrong idea, I thought that you're supposed to play something like that right after white moves on the left. Let white commit first then move in in a way that counters it. White needs two moves on the left, and they say invade when there's one move left, right?

I've read that advice somewhere, the correct timing to invade is just before the door closes.

I guess it boils down to reading if the invasion will work.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$B $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O X X X . . . . . O X . X . . | $$ | . . . . . O X . X . O . . O O X . X . | $$ | . . . , O . . X . X . . . O X , X O . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . O X X X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . O O X . O . | $$ | . . a b . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . | $$ | . . c d . . . . . . . . O . X . O . . | $$ | . . e f . . . . . . . . . . X O O O . | $$ | . . g h . . . . . , . . . O X X O . O | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . X X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . X , . . . . X , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I would give it mybe less than 50% chance if white plays first at a, b, c or d. :scratch:

Elom0 · #9

remotecontrol wrote:

Elom0 wrote:

Hmm . . . Unless I have the wrong idea, I thought that you're supposed to play something like that right after white moves on the left. Let white commit first then move in in a way that counters it. White needs two moves on the left, and they say invade when there's one move left, right?

I've read that advice somewhere, the correct timing to invade is just before the door closes.

I guess it boils down to reading if the invasion will work.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$B $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O X X X . . . . . O X . X . . | $$ | . . . . . O X . X . O . . O O X . X . | $$ | . . . , O . . X . X . . . O X , X O . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . O X X X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . O O X . O . | $$ | . . a b . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . | $$ | . . c d . . . . . . . . O . X . O . . | $$ | . . e f . . . . . . . . . . X O O O . | $$ | . . g h . . . . . , . . . O X X O . O | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . X X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . X , . . . . X , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I would give it maybe less than 50% chance if white plays first at a, b, c or d. :scratch:

Perhaps, although even after white plays any of those four places, the two groups in the topside area are still more important. If white plays any of the moves you mentioned, secure the upper black group while pressuring the group on the right. it's easier to invade after that, so that's probably the correct timing. . .

remotecontrol · **#10**

Played around 20 games on OGS this weekend. Tried to play my best with moderate time settings.

Most of them are best forgotten, but there were a few games vs 2-4 dans that were enlightening.

Forgotten what its like to play stronger players as I usually play against same strength opponents.
I tend to rely on my opponent making overplays or dubious moves and then out read them in some fighting.
Instead I was the one who was found out to be playing dubious moves! :bow:

Here's a game, I played black. Probably a bit passive play in general.

I don't have a set favourite fuseki, I used to play 3-4 points as it was easier to play more solid/territorial.

Then switched to rotating 5-4 points to learn to use influence. This is effective at players around 1kyu as it takes them out of they comfort zone with a strange style, high approaches, caps and shoulder hits.

Have decided to stick to playing 4-4 points and make a knights enclosure, to simplify my game. I never really liked 4-4 for some reason, it just seemed too repetitive with the joseki choice, but I think it will be good for me to improve at it. I can still choose to opt for variations that emphasise influence in a lot of cases.

Reread "Vital points of Go" by Takagawa Kaku this weekend. First read it at about 8kyu, it makes a lot more sense to me now at 1kyu. Some really good content, mostly about efficiency of joseki with regards to surrounding stones. Some good stuff about reducing/invading that I skimmed through along with a chapter on tewari analysis.
The use of probing moves was explained in terms of efficiency. It's similar to Yilun Yang's Fundamentals book in terms of the same subjects.

Currently on problem 258 out of 861 of Cho Chikun's L&D intermediate. Mostly doable (mybe 85%). Got further now than my last attempt to do it.
And page 112 of 637 of the Yamashita Keigo's Dictionary of Basic Tesuji. Some long reading sequences, some easyish.

remotecontrol · **#11**

Cho Chikun's intermediate L&D, on problem 456 of 861. Hit a rough patch this last 20 problems. L and J looking groups with legs and alterations are giving me trouble. Keep going!

Keigo's Tesuji Dictionary, on page 202 of 637. Around 20% success rate, some vital points and shapes I know but don't read all the way to the end. Many others I get totally wrong.

My 2 cents, looking at the tesuji answers after a good try is OK even if I can't fathom it. Won't do this with tsumego but for tesuji it's about gaining knowledge as well as calculation. Also OK because my memory is atrocious! :clap:

Played through some kifu from the 2006 Nihon Ki-in yearbook, mostly just to relax and get off the computer. Some games get engrossing though and demand thought.

Had a late night bender on OGS, went on tilt, not good. Not much thought, some blunders. I like to play slower but somehow feel it polite to keep a reasonable tempo to match my opponent.

Started playing vs leela zero on a real board again. Had good memories of when leela zero was first doing distributed training. On an old thinkpad X61 laptop the best 5 block network could do 50 playouts in a few seconds. Had many games with it and finally won a game which had a capture race. Good times.

Working my way up the 6 block networks on 800 playouts again (thinkpad x260 now). Start at network 58 (1-2dan) and try to reach 91 (5dan), go up a level if I get a win, go down if lose several games in a row.
Last time got to around network 66, don't totally remember. Looking at the strength graph on https://zero.sjeng.org/, that makes sense, it goes on a growth spurt around there, probably gets to 2-3dan which is going to cause me problems.

Review with katago 15block, looking for opening and middle game vital points and direction of play. This is humbling, there are always a handful of major learning points. Turning these into anki cards via screenshots using CGoban. Something I thought about doing before but dismissed as not worth the effort. But really it only takes 5 minutes since reviewing the game anyway and reinforces the learning process with the effort of making the cards. Put some A,B,C,D options on the front card and 1 move or sequence on the back card.

Not sure if I will make a tournament this year, there is one in September, but its a bit of a pain to get to without a car, both time wise and cost, but that's me mostly making excuses because my Go is not at the level I'd want it to be.

remotecontrol · **#12**

Found this Nihon Kiin Go Channel for overseas to have some good content.

Here's one on ko threats.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RidmAjo3iHM

They've also got vids on How to use thickness and AI style joseki.

http://www.inaf-go.org/lectures/

Played through this kifu, fun game, many tesuji. move 109 at E4 was suggested as mybe better, stops w getting settled I think.

Usually get the gist of what's going on more or less, but this was one of those that were far beyond.

Looked it up on waltheri and turns out black was none other than Yuki Satoshi, that explains it. ;-)

remotecontrol · **#13**

Cho Chikun's intermediate L&D, on problem 655 of 861. Still around 80%, some easy shapes, some hard. Grouped together and sometimes the next problem will be the same shape with a couple of extra moves to simplify it.

Keigo's Tesuji Dictionary, on page 288 of 637 (chapter 10). Still around 20% success rate, mybe less.

From tchans blog, list of chapter names translated:

Played a handful of serious games and reviewed. Up to about 60 anki flashcards made now.

Bought a bicycle light, so I can cycle the 8 miles at 4:30am to catch the train to the Go tournament in September, getting prepared :lol:

Not played any more all night semi-blitz games, so that's progress.

remotecontrol · **#14**

Completed Cho Chikun's intermediate L&D. 90%+ solve rate. Many took 1 minute, so not easy, although all the shapes are fairly simple. Good satisfaction in solving them, definitely will try again sometime.

Keigo's Tesuji Dictionary, on page 317 of 637. Stalled making progress. Keep going, would like to finish it. Difficult when having to spend 5-10 minutes on most of the problems.

Started a booklet of 360 tsumego+30 ladder exercises+300 tesuji, origins from a Chinese kids pamphlet I believe. At problem 115 of the 360. These are all easy, around GGPFB vol3 to 4 level. Just wanted to drill some quick tsumego for a change.

I have lots of motivation to do tsumego, I'd like to crack some of the harder problem sets. I tend to brute force problems as my pattern recognition retention is mybe not the best. So to improve I'll need to up the concentration and short term memory to efficiently go through variation branches. practice practice practice.

Also enjoy laying out pro kifu and pondering/meditating on moves, even endgame is interesting sometimes.

Not inclined to play much online recently :-|

. Mybe will play katago 6block (6dan) ~500 playouts and take 3 or 4 stones handicap on a real goban. Motivated to try get a win against it. 2 stones as black is too tough for me.

A long term goal is to make a solid 1 dan EGF (2100 points). Currently around 2060 after many years of playing max 1 tournament a year and slowing gaining average 15 points each time. So my rating has not peaked, but to consistently play online to keep in shape knowing it will take 3+ years is tough.

Will continue the tsumego and pro kifu as that's my main enjoyment. When a tournament comes around then 1 or 2 months before hand I'll practice handicap games with katago. That's my logic anyway...

Three of my favourite areas about playing a game of go is fighting, haengma/shape intuition and endgame (in that order

) amongst many other facets of the game.

Don't know if anyone was watching the World Chess Championship tiebreakers?, the commentators Tania, Robert and Fabi made it really exciting. That last game will stay with me for a while. Ding sure is something else, he was just playing the best move like he said. :bow:

A quote I saw on chess reddit the other day stuck with me also. Jan Gustaffson said something along the lines of "Playing chess is a balance between not wanting to think too much and not wanting to lose."

Here's some problems from Cho Chikun Intermediate that look innocent enough at first glance, I've yet to fully solve them, let me know how you get on. Black to play.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$B $$ -------- $$ | . . . X O . | $$ | . O . X O . | $$ | . . . X O . | $$ | X X X . O . | $$ | O O O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . | $$ --------[/go]

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$B $$ ----------- $$ | . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O X . | $$ | . O O O X . X . | $$ | . X X X X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . | $$ -----------[/go]

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$B $$ ----------- $$ | . O . X . . | $$ | X . . X O . | $$ | O O . X O . | $$ | . X X X O . | $$ | . O O O O . | $$ | . . . . . . | $$ -----------[/go]

remotecontrol account

Who is online