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Post #21 Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 7:50 am 
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Thanks for the comments. 23 at M3 makes sense to me. Can you say anything about the one space jump to K3 that you proposed as followup?


Ah, I did mean J3. K3 as a base for jumping right out to L6 has some merit.

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41/43, I wasn't sure what the urgent play was. I thought about invading on the top, but I didn't have a feel for how it would turn out.


This is surely a good time to invade. :b41: at O14 looks quite strategic, making miai of invading the top and right sides. But even harder to figure out what happens next.

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Post #22 Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 1:01 pm 
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I won this game by timeout but the upper right was an odd situation. I don't think I've ever had an opponent jump then enter the corner. It seems wrong, but I'm not sure if my response makes sense.


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Post #23 Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 1:05 pm 
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Another game, that was close, until I lost 20 stones in endgame.

27: seems off.

The attack on the right side doesn't seem to get black much.

117: perhaps r6 is where I should play.

151: this is an error, but I'm not sure about the best play.

I can't identify White's errors...I'm surprised the game wasn't lopsided even without losing the big group.

If I defend, I count White winning by 7.5 (58.5 - 51).


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Post #24 Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 3:29 am 
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27: seems off.
:b27: Consider J17 ( or J16 ) ?
( After :w12: , J17 became a nice spot. )

:b31: K17 quite natural. If W resists with K16 cut,
then atari H17; if W drops to J18, then G17 is sente.
You capture :w28: .

:b35: Locally: Push-and-cut starting with D14 ?
Globally: not sure. The game move :b35: feels slow, and you fixed W's defect here.
( For example: :b37: directly. )

:b43: Locally, E3.

:b47: This local result is a big loss for B.
( For example: :b39: at Q17 directly. )
Still bad aji at R17; maybe R17 directly.

:w48: Well, B & W help each other. :)

:w54: P3...

:b55: P3 painful for W ( he missed it ).

:b61: P9...

:w64: Q11...

:w96: Result of local fight: B let W get away with murder.
Problems: B's basic shape issues, fighting skills issues.

:white: 134 Q3.

:black: 231 pass.
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Sometimes our opponent doesn't have to make any big mistakes --
if we play enough slow, slack, and/or bad moves, they'll win.

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Post #25 Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 8:31 am 
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I agree with all your comments. :b27: I think I have too much fear of playing deep within an opponent's framework--I need to work to look for places where it makes sense.

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Sometimes our opponent doesn't have to make any big mistakes --
if we play enough slow, slack, and/or bad moves, they'll win.
What I meant was that given my bad play throughout the game, I am surprised it was not already a blowout before my blunder.

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Post #26 Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 1:59 pm 
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:b15: q6 is soft. Better to p3 or p2.

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Post #27 Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 2:48 am 
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I was reminded about gokibitz.com, so uploaded your game there and will make some comments/variations:

https://gokibitz.com/kifu/Vy-r9LhIb

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Post #28 Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 9:16 am 
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Thanks for the comments, Uberdude--they're really nice. The only thing I couldn't follow is whether you were advocating R18 or R17 at move 47.

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Post #29 Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 2:54 am 
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The only thing I couldn't follow is whether you were advocating R18 or R17 at move 47.

I was saying that you should tenuki: it's too generous to let white capture that stone in sente (given that you still have problems in the right side*). But if you are going to take gote to spend a move there, r17 would be better.

* there is the variation (which I added on move 43) where white starts at r17, you block at r16, and then he can take the one stone in sente. But in that variation he makes the r17 sacrifice to ensure taking the single stone is sente, but the r17 sacrifice has a cost of making your right side stronger and harder to invade. In the game he got the positive aspect of taking the single stone in sente, without the negative of making your right side stronger.

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Post #30 Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 4:14 pm 
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This next game was a peaceful moyo game. I thought hard about move 34, and would appreciate comments if there was a better move. I think I was already slightly ahead by then, and 43-53 seem bad for B. 44 seems like a mistake, however--it doesn't have a great followup if B doesn't respond locally.

Bad etiquette! I didn't thank my opponent for the game.


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Post #31 Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 4:46 pm 
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Hi hypepape,

:b17: atari is wrong sequence -- B ends in gote (instead of sente in the joseki).
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:b19: E17 atari (B gets gote).

:b27: Maybe R5 approach bigger.

:w68: Maybe C2, R18 bigger.

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Post #32 Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 6:55 am 
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At 68, I was worried about the right way to make life if Black played the atari, so I played a to forestall it, and also make a few points. My thought is that I don't want to tempt capturing at b, as it introduces aji into my center.

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Post #33 Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 9:32 am 
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hyperpape wrote:
At 68, I was worried about the right way to make life if Black played the atari, so I played a to forestall it, and also make a few points. My thought is that I don't want to tempt capturing at b, as it introduces aji into my center.


This way is pretty straightforward.
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Post #34 Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 9:47 am 
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Thanks. I was looking at the tiger mouth one point above :W4: for some reason--not like this is an unfamiliar shape. Now I just have to count. White loses points in the corner and also the monkey jump this way...probably still better to play C2 or R18.

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Post #35 Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 5:25 pm 
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:b25: seems awkward. What I dislike is that I can't think of a followup after White jumps.

:b27: I suspect this is not a good move. I think sometimes in the transition to the middle game, I lose track of what to do. There are no overt big points, a relatively weak black group in the top left, an unsettled white group in the upper right, and a weak white group that I can't decide how to attack in the lower right. I think trying to fix the balance of strength in the top is a good idea, but I'm not sold on sliding.

:b37: Dubious as well. I'd like to put pressure on the single white stone, but how? Is O10 reasonable?

:b39: misread. I considered White R11, but not the wedge.

:b51: This would have been the time to count and make a plan.

:b91: Surprised when white played the descent. Should have considered it more fully before playing.


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:b27: M17 could be a candidate.

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Post #37 Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2016 6:10 am 
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There are times in the past where I was criticized for resigning too early. This game is not one of them. After a horrible mistake in the LR, I was able to keep posing my opponent problems until they slipped up and gave me a win.

:w14: I was outside of anything I recognized here. N2 seemed very submissive, though maybe it would have been better, since :b15: creates a shape problem.

:b21: I think I am ok if I play at P3. This is the almost losing move.

:b29: - :b31: Desperate hallucinations, I guess.

:b35: :w36: :b37: :w38: White is playing very safe with these moves, which makes sense.

:b51: :b59: I may be rushing here, and trying too hard to provoke a fight. D14 seems better for :b59:

109 Maybe the right time to play Q14? Also, I was worried about the status of my four stone group in the center, but I think I need to play on the top.

140 I did not consider that white could fight this ko. This is a refrain of mine...I don't look at enough different responses my opponent could give.

168 I count myself down by almost 30 points (count is in the sgf), which means that Black has gained nothing since dying in the first corner. My plan is to poke at White's weaknesses, recount, and then probably resign.

172 Seems greedy.

192 Ditto.

203 Doesn't M3 just save my LR group? Not sure what I was thinking.


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Post #38 Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 9:50 am 
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203 Doesn't M3 just save my LR group? Not sure what I was thinking.
I got this right in the game, wrong in the analysis.

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Post #39 Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 7:18 am 
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This last game was ended up being close. The end result is B+3.5. There are several Malkovitch comments in the SGF. In addition:

:b35: At this point, I prefer B's opening. I think my play on in the lower right was not good, or perhaps I should not approach the top right but immediately play on the bottom to harass Black's group?

:w76: I kept thinking there was something white could do after pushing, but I think it was a hallucination.

:w96: I think I need to do something more ambitious here.

I made several counts throughout the game (included in the Malkovitch log). In particular, at 167, I think either my count was biased towards White or I did a bad job counting during the yose.


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Post #40 Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2016 9:46 am 
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The recent threads talking about soft-skills have struck a chord with me. I haven't put in any real serious study but I've been winning a lot more and moved up in the ratings on OGS. Some of that was caused by timing out games several times in the past which held me down to 7k, but I think some of it is also real improvement in my play.

Specifically, I've been trying to:

1. count more
2. win points in the endgame
3. avoid playing the first move that comes to mind

All three are hard, but the third is the worst. There will always be times when you don't anticipate your opponents move, but I want to avoid the times when it's because I didn't look. I've been mulling over something like a 3-3-3 rule: excepting the most trivial positions, consider at least three candidate moves, consider at least three responses to your chosen move, consider at least three strategic options.

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