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 Post subject: Game review 3D EFG 20181129
Post #1 Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 3:09 pm 
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Last day with our 3D EGF guest at our local club and a second chance for a teaching game for me.

I missed two opportunities to win this one. Enjoyed loosing this one anyhow and hope to meet our friend again in the future.


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Post #2 Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 3:14 pm 
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I had a good fuseki but did not find the correct answer to this attachment:

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[go]$$
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X . X O . . . . . . . O . . O X . |
$$ | . . . X O O . . . , . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . W . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . X . O . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]


black is winning with this variation
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$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X . X O . . . . . . . O . . O X . |
$$ | . . . X O O . . . , . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . X . O . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

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Post #3 Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 3:19 pm 
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Here I spotted the shape move but did not play it. (read a little bit more careful!)
The marked move wins the game.

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$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X . X O . . . . . . O O . . O X . |
$$ | . . . X O O . . . , X . X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . X X X O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O O X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . B O . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . X . O . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

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Post #4 Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 3:21 pm 
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Black to play and win. How could I miss this one :shock: :)

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[go]$$
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X . X O . . . . . . O O . . O X . |
$$ | . . . X O O . . . , X X X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . O W X O X X X O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O . O O O X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O X O . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . X . O . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]


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[go]$$
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X . X O . . . . . . O O . . O X . |
$$ | . . . X O O . . . , X X X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . O O X O X X X O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O . O O O X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . B O O X X . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O X O . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . X . O . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

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Post #5 Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 10:58 am 
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Did you resign after move 95? If so, why? In your last variation you say black is ahead. Of course black is worse in the game but the difference seems way to small for the state of the game to go from "black is ahead" to "black has no chance anymore".

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Post #6 Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 12:56 pm 
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no, but I am ashamed to show you the rest of the game ;-)

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Post #7 Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 6:20 am 
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Gomoto wrote:
Black to play and win. How could I miss this one :shock: :)


Beats self-atari.

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Post #8 Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 9:01 am 
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Indeed the reading error was a little bit related to self atari.

After black atari and white connecting, I in fact visualized white making two moves in a row and continuing with the next move.

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