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remotecontrol · #1

It will be good to make a record of study and track progress.

Currently as of March 2023, at or very near 1 dan.

Goal is to get the best that I've ever been at tsumego and tesuji, and hopefully make a solid 2 dan.

Going through Yamashito Keigo tesuji dictionary, its the new revision of Shuko's.

And Cho Chikun Encyclopedia of life and death - Intermediate, from tasuki's website.

I don't play regularly but sometimes get the urge and will play all day on the internet. Got +3 wins in total the other day which promoted me to 1 dan IGS. I tend not to stick to strict study plans after a few weeks ;-)

Here's a fun game against one of those anonymous computer terminal accounts probably in a go salon somewhere in Japan.

Not sure if I was being trolled by a stronger player or what happened but messed up choosing Q6 in the bottom right corner as didn't read and just crossed fingers and hoped instead.

Would like to be able to play like white one day, but alas I play like black.

edit: embedded sgf in the post and not external link. Got a review from ivoSF on KGS, a couple of main points that stuck with me was to play C11 (move 67) and make better shape at play F11 (move 97) as white has some weak points.

remotecontrol · #2

Probably best to split instead of a

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extend at

instead of a

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black

possible as white has weakness

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Knotwilg · #3

Moves I wouldn't play (didn't check with AI)

75 - gote
81 - too deep and a bit of ajikeshi
97 - I'd sacrifice, give a bit of that center to white and take sente to play at the lower side

kvasir · #4

Black looks alive at move 72 and then there is no need to add a move. Black could consider "a" instead but this can be cut and I'm not sure if it leaves useful aji, then black could consider "b" to "d" (or anything that comes to mind, really).

I think it was difficult for black to get a clear advantage in this game since his position was a bit thin, the weakness around "e" was there throughout most of the game, just waiting for white to strike, and the J4 stone was bit far from anything else. Basically, black might have been better but the thinness could make it more difficult take it to the end. Also, black only had one stone looking into the center and it is harder to play that way.

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White appeared to get an ideal result from the first fight, outside stones and sente-ish threat to revive some stones. If black captures it looks like something white is happy with, capturing is big, though, and white also happy that black didn't capture. Instead of trying to breakdown the details of this fight I'll suggest something different.

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Black's next move locally doesn't feel that important. White's stones can extend or jump and black can live in the corner but at the same time there are three similar corner waiting for a move. I think black shouldn't play anything! For example the next diagram might be found in any old book (or maybe not), in the second next black simply completes their other corner and is ready to deal with it when white adds a move in the first.

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Btw, If both players keep playing elsewhere it will eventually be time to add a move in the first corner but at the moment the first move in this fight isn't that important since both players could keep playing away. Black got into a bit of a trouble here but could have averted this trouble by playing "nothing".

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Elom0 · #5

Why play D17 so early?

remotecontrol · #6

Elom0 wrote:

Why play D17 so early?

My reasoning was that if white gets a move around the left centre, then it may be too late.

Elom0 · #7

remotecontrol wrote:

Elom0 wrote:

Why play D17 so early?

My reasoning was that if white gets a move around the left centre, then it may be too late.

Hmm . . . Unless I have the wrong idea, I thought that you're supposed to play something like that right after white moves on the left. Let white commit first then move in in a way that counters it. White needs two moves on the left, and they say invade when there's one move left, right?

remotecontrol · #8

Elom0 wrote:

Hmm . . . Unless I have the wrong idea, I thought that you're supposed to play something like that right after white moves on the left. Let white commit first then move in in a way that counters it. White needs two moves on the left, and they say invade when there's one move left, right?

I've read that advice somewhere, the correct timing to invade is just before the door closes.

I guess it boils down to reading if the invasion will work.

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I would give it mybe less than 50% chance if white plays first at a, b, c or d. :scratch:

Elom0 · #9

remotecontrol wrote:

Elom0 wrote:

Hmm . . . Unless I have the wrong idea, I thought that you're supposed to play something like that right after white moves on the left. Let white commit first then move in in a way that counters it. White needs two moves on the left, and they say invade when there's one move left, right?

I've read that advice somewhere, the correct timing to invade is just before the door closes.

I guess it boils down to reading if the invasion will work.

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I would give it maybe less than 50% chance if white plays first at a, b, c or d. :scratch:

Perhaps, although even after white plays any of those four places, the two groups in the topside area are still more important. If white plays any of the moves you mentioned, secure the upper black group while pressuring the group on the right. it's easier to invade after that, so that's probably the correct timing. . .

remotecontrol · **#10**

Played around 20 games on OGS this weekend. Tried to play my best with moderate time settings.

Most of them are best forgotten, but there were a few games vs 2-4 dans that were enlightening.

Forgotten what its like to play stronger players as I usually play against same strength opponents.
I tend to rely on my opponent making overplays or dubious moves and then out read them in some fighting.
Instead I was the one who was found out to be playing dubious moves! :bow:

Here's a game, I played black. Probably a bit passive play in general.

I don't have a set favourite fuseki, I used to play 3-4 points as it was easier to play more solid/territorial.

Then switched to rotating 5-4 points to learn to use influence. This is effective at players around 1kyu as it takes them out of they comfort zone with a strange style, high approaches, caps and shoulder hits.

Have decided to stick to playing 4-4 points and make a knights enclosure, to simplify my game. I never really liked 4-4 for some reason, it just seemed too repetitive with the joseki choice, but I think it will be good for me to improve at it. I can still choose to opt for variations that emphasise influence in a lot of cases.

Reread "Vital points of Go" by Takagawa Kaku this weekend. First read it at about 8kyu, it makes a lot more sense to me now at 1kyu. Some really good content, mostly about efficiency of joseki with regards to surrounding stones. Some good stuff about reducing/invading that I skimmed through along with a chapter on tewari analysis.
The use of probing moves was explained in terms of efficiency. It's similar to Yilun Yang's Fundamentals book in terms of the same subjects.

Currently on problem 258 out of 861 of Cho Chikun's L&D intermediate. Mostly doable (mybe 85%). Got further now than my last attempt to do it.
And page 112 of 637 of the Yamashita Keigo's Dictionary of Basic Tesuji. Some long reading sequences, some easyish.

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