Jedo wrote:
Here's a game I lost recently as black. Would appreciate any comments.
Some questions: Was I right to tenuki the top group at 29? MY attack with 45 just sort of fizzles out, what would be a better way of attacking? 115: Biggest on board? 117 is safe but feels a little flat, what would be more constructive? Right to end ko at 169?
Some thoughts.
[sgf-full](;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[1800]OT[3x40 byo-yomi]PW[zzandoree]PB[Jedo]WR[1k]BR[1k]DT[2011-02-16]PC[The KGS Go Server at <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.gokgs.com/">http://www.gokgs.com/</a><!-- m -->]RE[W+Resign];B[qe]BL[1797.762]C[Jedo [1k\]: hizzandoree [1k\]: hi];W[dd]WL[1778.22];B[pp]BL[1792.909];W[dp]WL[1742.094];B[fq]BL[1786.215];W[fp]WL[1661.909];B[gp]BL[1781.822];W[eq]WL[1660.195];B[fo]BL[1779.799];W[ep]WL[1659.3];B[go]BL[1768.475];W[gq]WL[1655.859];B[hq]BL[1763.732];W[fr]WL[1655.122]C[Can't tenuki yet. You have to finish with g2, because white's h2 is too big a sente to allow.];B[fc]BL[1754.015];W[hc]WL[1639.432];B[cc]BL[1740.268];W[dc]WL[1637.176];B[cd]BL[1737.045];W[de]WL[1636.332];B[db]BL[1735.493];W[eb]WL[1634.738];B[cb]BL[1733.986];W[ec]WL[1633.804];B[cf]BL[1733.207];W[hr]WL[1621.629];B[iq]BL[1729.531];W[qn]WL[1568.48];B[jc]BL[1706.371];W[eg]WL[1557.483];B[cg]BL[1688.498];W[nq]WL[1500.966];B[oo]BL[1677.88];W[qq]WL[1495.271];B[qp]BL[1660.35]C[Block is not joseki, but if you must block, block q3 because you have stones pincering on that side. (but it's still bad because j2 is open) Joseki when white double approaches and you don't have a pincer is a shoulder hit on one of the r6 or o3 stones.];W[pq]WL[1435.872];B[mp]BL[1655.663];W[op]WL[1412.823];B[np]BL[1635.644];W[oq]WL[1393.009];B[po]BL[1620.689];W[rp]WL[1389.967];B[ro]BL[1616.242];W[rq]WL[1388.711];B[fb]BL[1606.826];W[fa]WL[1358.87];B[ga]BL[1599.638];W[ea]WL[1355.67];B[hb]BL[1589.063];W[fd]WL[1330.071];B[ib]BL[1571.525];W[gd]WL[1323.227];B[gb]BL[1565.637];W[rn]WL[1301.907];B[qo]BL[1553.848];W[so]WL[1293.654];B[qk]BL[1526.579];W[no]WL[1269.679];B[pm]BL[1511.465];W[mo]WL[1211.615];B[lp]BL[1486.994];W[lo]WL[1191.795];B[pn]BL[1458.806]
(;W[rl]WL[1175.891]C[This is probably when you should go back to l4 and patch up. It's way too big to allow w to capture those three stones.]
(;B[rk]BL[1445.91];W[pl]WL[1124.199];B[ql]BL[1336.078];W[qm]WL[1116.481];B[ol]BL[1333.321];W[jd]WL[1062.824];B[pk]BL[1285.985];W[kc]WL[1058.455];B[kb]BL[1253.769];W[ic]WL[1054.881];B[lb]BL[1211.243];W[jb]WL[1052.981];B[ja]BL[1208.169];W[ia]WL[1016.784];B[jc]BL[1203.249];W[ce]WL[1014.498];B[be]BL[1200.517];W[jb]WL[1013.396];B[ha]BL[1193.49];W[jc]WL[991.747];B[lc]BL[1177.842];W[qd]WL[932.86];B[pd]BL[1155.268];W[re]WL[885.469];B[qc]BL[1094.905];W[rd]WL[883.194];B[qf]BL[1093.011];W[pc]WL[849.601];B[pb]BL[1048.112];W[oc]WL[840.378];B[qb]BL[1025.094]C[Feels like overplay];W[ob]WL[830.595];B[od]BL[1003.418];W[nd]WL[815.519];B[nc]BL[980.229];W[pe]WL[778.184];B[oe]BL[976.246];W[ne]WL[777.098];B[of]BL[952.037];W[mc]WL[775.128];B[nb]BL[949.903];W[mb]WL[774.266];B[oa]BL[948.268];W[ma]WL[773.002];B[md]BL[939.067];W[ld]WL[770.26];B[me]BL[932.776];W[ka]WL[732.913]C[but this is an ok result, i guess];B[le]BL[922.916];W[la]WL[726.632];B[cn]BL[906.579]C[This is a bit thin, white can play d6 to break through. Anyway, l4 is still the biggest place.];W[kp]WL[703.74];B[ck]BL[882.413];W[io]WL[671.815];B[kq]BL[844.488]
(;W[jo]WL[592.427]C[what is this nonsense];B[jp]BL[825.319];W[ko]WL[587.797];B[hp]BL[815.036];W[jr]WL[572.979];B[en]BL[764.297]C[see, you need to add a move. I think d5 would have been better.];W[ch]WL[493.597];B[dh]BL[751.508];W[di]WL[364.792];B[ci]BL[693.502];W[cj]WL[359.956];B[bh]BL[690.617];W[bi]WL[355.044];B[dj]BL[647.66];W[dm]WL[290.093];B[dn]BL[610.218];W[cm]WL[273.088];B[em]BL[592.485];W[ch]WL[267.792];B[ei]BL[565.545];W[dk]WL[265.104];B[ci]BL[548.497];W[bk]WL[199.494];B[bj]BL[492.603];W[el]WL[195.736];B[ek]BL[477.603];W[bn]WL[24.197];B[bo]BL[451.533];W[bm]WL[40]OW[3];B[cp]BL[395.053];W[cl]WL[40]OW[3];B[dl]BL[356.688];W[do]WL[40]OW[3];B[fl]BL[310.831];W[co]WL[40]OW[3];B[bp]BL[263.188];W[al]WL[40]OW[3];B[an]BL[247.26];W[ao]WL[40]OW[3]
(;B[ap]BL[237.477];W[cq]WL[40]OW[3];B[bq]BL[213.531];W[br]WL[40]OW[3];B[cr]BL[204.947];W[dr]WL[40]OW[3];B[cs]BL[160.659];W[ds]WL[40]OW[3];B[dq]BL[147.126];W[rg]WL[40]OW[3];B[ar]BL[36.725];W[rf]WL[40]OW[3];B[qg]BL[40]OB[3];W[qh]WL[40]OW[3];B[ri]BL[40]OB[3];W[rh]WL[40]OW[3];B[oh]BL[40]OB[3];W[oi]WL[40]OW[3]
(;B[pi]BL[40]OB[3];W[qi]WL[40]OW[3];B[rj]BL[40]OB[3];W[ph]WL[40]OW[3];B[pj]BL[40]OB[3];W[pg]WL[40]OW[3];B[pf]BL[40]OB[3];W[og]WL[40]OW[3];B[nh]BL[40]OB[3];W[ng]WL[40]OW[3]
(;B[mg]BL[40]OB[3];W[mh]WL[40]OW[3];B[ni]BL[40]OB[3];W[mi]WL[40]OW[3];B[nj]BL[40]OB[3];W[lg]WL[40]OW[3];B[mf]BL[40]OB[3];W[nf]WL[40]OW[3];B[kf]BL[40]OB[3];W[jg]WL[40]OW[3];B[jf]BL[40]OB[3];W[if]WL[40]OW[3];B[kg]BL[40]OB[2];W[kh]WL[40]OW[3];B[jh]BL[40]OB[2];W[ig]WL[40]OW[3];B[ki]BL[40]OB[2];W[lh]WL[40]OW[3];B[mj]BL[40]OB[2];W[ke]WL[40]OW[3];B[jq]BL[40]OB[2];W[cq]WL[40]OW[3];B[bs]BL[40]OB[2];W[lq]WL[40]OW[3];B[lr]BL[40]OB[2];W[mr]WL[40]OW[3];B[sl]BL[40]OB[2];W[lj]WL[40]OW[3];B[li]BL[40]OB[2];W[lf]WL[40]OW[3];B[rm]BL[40]OB[2];W[ij]WL[40]OW[3];B[ik]BL[40]OB[2];W[jk]WL[40]OW[3];B[hj]BL[40]OB[2];W[jj]WL[40]OW[3];B[il]BL[40]OB[2];W[hi]WL[40]OW[3];B[lk]BL[40]OB[2];W[jl]WL[40]OW[3];B[kj]BL[40]OB[2];W[gj]WL[40]OW[3];B[hk]BL[40]OB[2];W[gk]WL[40]OW[3];B[gi]BL[40]OB[2];W[hm]WL[40]OW[3];B[hh]BL[40]OB[1];W[ii]WL[40]OW[3];B[sn]BL[40]OB[1];W[fi]WL[40]OW[3];B[fj]BL[40]OB[1];W[gh]WL[40]OW[3];B[kr]BL[40]OB[1];W[rc]WL[40]OW[3];B[ir]BL[40]OB[1];W[eh]WL[40]OW[3];B[hs]BL[40]OB[1];W[gr]WL[40]OW[3];B[ji]BL[40]OB[1];W[ll]WL[40]OW[3];B[ih]BL[40]OB[1];W[hg]WL[40]OW[3];B[df]BL[40]OB[1];W[kk]WL[40]OW[3];B[lj]BL[40]OB[1];W[nl]WL[40]OW[3];B[ef]BL[40]OB[1];W[ff]WL[40]OW[3];B[ee]BL[40]OB[1];W[ed]WL[40]OW[3];B[fe]BL[40]OB[1];W[ge]WL[40]OW[3];B[mm]BL[40]OB[1];W[nm]WL[40]OW[3];B[ml]BL[40]OB[1];W[lm]WL[40]OW[3];B[mn]BL[40]OB[1];W[nn]WL[40]OW[3];B[sp]BL[40]OB[1];W[ln]WL[40]OW[3];B[mk]BL[40]OB[1];W[nk]WL[40]OW[3];B[oj]BL[40]OB[1];W[fk]WL[40]OW[3];B[sq]BL[40]OB[1];W[sr]WL[40]OW[3];B[so]BL[40]OB[1];W[rb]WL[40]OW[3];B[rr]BL[40]OB[1];W[qr]WL[40]OW[3];B[ss]BL[40]OB[1];W[ej]WL[40]OW[3];B[fg]BL[40]OB[1];W[gf]WL[40]OW[3];B[fj]BL[40]OB[1];W[gl]WL[40]OW[3];B[gm]BL[40]OB[1];W[ej]WL[40]OW[3];B[mq]BL[40]OB[1];W[lq]WL[40]OW[3];B[hn]BL[40]OB[1];W[in]WL[40]OW[3];B[ra]BL[40]OB[1];W[di]WL[40]OW[3];B[im]BL[40]OB[1];W[jm]WL[40]OW[3];B[ei]BL[40]OB[1];W[bd]WL[40]OW[3];B[bc]BL[40]OB[1];W[di]WL[40]OW[3];B[hl]BL[40]OB[1];W[hm]WL[40]OW[3];B[ei]BL[40]OB[1];W[bf]WL[40]OW[3];B[ad]BL[40]OB[1];W[di]WL[40]OW[3];B[hl]BL[40]OB[1];W[im]WL[40]OW[3];B[ei]BL[40]OB[1];W[fm]WL[40]OW[3];B[fn]BL[40]OB[1];W[di]WL[40]OW[3];B[gs]BL[40]OB[1];W[fs]WL[40]OW[3];B[is]BL[40]OB[1];W[qa]WL[40]OW[3];B[pa]BL[40]OB[1];W[ei]WL[40]OW[3];B[ms]BL[40]OB[1];W[dg]WL[40]OW[3];B[ch]BL[40]OB[1];W[ns]WL[40]OW[3];B[ls]BL[40]OB[1];W[ho]WL[40]OW[3];B[da]BL[40]OB[1];W[gn]WL[40]OW[3];B[lp]BL[40]OB[1];W[fm]WL[40]OW[3];B[mq]BL[40]OB[1];W[el]WL[40]OW[3]C[Jedo [1k\]: thankszzandoree [1k\]: ty])
(;B[nf]C[n13 looks like a move you play when you go on tilt. keep focused, white is still in trouble and black has plenty of points.]))
(;B[ni]C[think this works.]
(;W[nh];B[ph])
(;W[pg];B[pf];W[nh];B[og];W[qi];B[rj];W[nj];B[pi])))
(;B[cr]C[why not just here?]))
(;W[jp]))
(;B[kp]))
(;W[kp]C[man, this would suck for black.]))[/sgf-full]
And answers to the questions: I don't like the tenuki, I think black should respond on the bottom right. 45 could be f16, then w will connect under and you can h16. (that's a variation that works when you have k17) 114- l4 is bigger. 117 could be high. You were right to end the ko at 169 but didn't defend properly.