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 Post subject: L19 Hahn Tournament - Draw and Standings
Post #1 Posted: Sun May 01, 2011 4:01 pm 
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Main time: 40 minutes each
Overtime: 5 x 0:40 byo-yomi, or 10 stones in 5 minutes Canadian overtime

Scoring will be Herman's log scoring system. Basically, jigo is 5 points each, a 1 point difference is 6 to the winner, up to 31 or more points difference being 10 to the winner. I'll calculate each of these scores to two DP in the standings below as they fill out :)

There will be a second stage for everyone, consisting of 5 groups of 4 players (winners in top group, 2nd place in next group etc).

First round is designed to last through May, second to last through June.

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Group A              vs 1      vs 2      vs 3      vs 4      vs 5      total
1. Shaddy 3d         ---       1.30      0.54      8.70      10.00     20.54
2. redundant 1k      8.70      ---       1.54      10.00     10.00     30.24
3. Tofu 6k           9.46      8.46      ---       10.00     10.00     37.92
4. phillip1882 7k    1.30      0.00      0.00      ---       ev        1.30
5. Mnemonic 8k       0.00      0.00      0.00      ev        ---       0.00

Group B              vs 1      vs 2      vs 3      vs 4      vs 5      total
1. stable 1k         ---       10.00     9.09      5h        9h        19.09
2. kirby 3k          0.00      ---       ev        10.00     6h        10.00
3. oren 5k           0.91      ev        ---       nk        0.00      0.91
4. Jordus 8k         5h        0.00      nk        ---       nk        0.00
5. S1NK 11k          9h        6h        10.00     nk        ---       10.00

Group C              vs 1      vs 2      vs 3      vs 4      vs 5      total
1. ez4u 3d           ---       9.91      10.00     10.00     10.00     39.91
2. daniel 1k         0.09      ---       10.00     10.00     10.00     30.09
3. CSamurai 5k       0.00      0.00      ---       10.00     10.00     20.00
4. Karaklis 7k       0.00      0.00      0.00      ---       10.00     10.00
5. LucianoS 11k      0.00      0.00      0.00      0.00      ---       0.00

Group D              vs 1      vs 2      vs 3      vs 4      vs 5      total
1. koosh 1d          ---       0.00      0.00      0.00      0.00      0.00
2. mw42 2k           10.00     ---       10.00     3h        10.00     30.00
3. entropi 4k        10.00     0.00      ---       0.00      0.00      10.00
4. Cyclops 7k        10.00     3h        10.00     ---       2.19      22.19
5. hailthorn011 11k  10.00     0.00      10.00     7.81      ---       27.81

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 Post subject: Re: L19 Hahn Tournament - Draw and Standings
Post #2 Posted: Sun May 01, 2011 4:24 pm 
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Since redundant made 1d, I think he and stable should be switched if possible.

...because I don't want to play him. :shock:

Also, whether this happens or not- let the burning begin :twisted:


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Post #3 Posted: Sun May 01, 2011 4:24 pm 
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Thanks. Sorry you had to subtract yourself from the tournament.


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Post #4 Posted: Sun May 01, 2011 4:27 pm 
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Shaddy wrote:
Since redundant made 1d, I think he and stable should be switched if possible.

...because I don't want to play him. :shock:

Also, whether this happens or not- let the burning begin :twisted:


I also just made 2k.

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Post #5 Posted: Sun May 01, 2011 4:34 pm 
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Shaddy wrote:
Since redundant made 1d, I think he and stable should be switched if possible.

...because I don't want to play him. :shock:

Also, whether this happens or not- let the burning begin :twisted:


I checked ranks before splitting - stable has just hit 1d, and red posted his current sit :)

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Post #6 Posted: Sun May 01, 2011 4:58 pm 
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Well, the groups look fun.
By the way, I'm hailthorn on KGS. the 011 was dropped off on the account because it made my name too long.

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Post #7 Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 3:54 am 
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Also I'm back to 1k (again) :P

So my group, what time zones are you in? I'm in the UK.

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Post #8 Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 4:19 am 
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Also I'm back to 1k (again) :P

So my group, what time zones are you in? I'm in the UK.


Same.

Also, for the whole group; I can play pretty much any time, PM me with a time and I'll do my best to make it.

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Post #9 Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 9:42 am 
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quick question, should we email you our games, or just the result?

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Post #10 Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 9:44 am 
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Post #11 Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 11:19 am 
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Post #12 Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 12:09 pm 
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quick question, should we email you our games, or just the result?


Post the games or links to the games on here is probably easiest (and lets other people have a look at the game)

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Post #13 Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 12:13 pm 
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Post #14 Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 10:21 pm 
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It's my first time to play in a tournament like this. Sounds fun!

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Post #15 Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 7:53 pm 
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ez4u and I just played our game. ez4u won by 29.5, so I guess I did half a point better than resigning... It was close for a long time, I don't feel too bad for messing up with G4 in overtime.


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Post #16 Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 8:36 pm 
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daniel_the_smith wrote:
ez4u and I just played our game. ez4u won by 29.5, so I guess I did half a point better than resigning... It was close for a long time, I don't feel too bad for messing up with G4 in overtime.


It's useful to know the correct response to wA5. It can be very stressful to suddenly face a reading problem defending this move against the tripod group which most people know is alive.

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Post #17 Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 1:55 am 
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yoyoma wrote:
daniel_the_smith wrote:
ez4u and I just played our game. ez4u won by 29.5, so I guess I did half a point better than resigning... It was close for a long time, I don't feel too bad for messing up with G4 in overtime.


It's useful to know the correct response to wA5. It can be very stressful to suddenly face a reading problem defending this move against the tripod group which most people know is alive.


Which is B1, right?

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Post #18 Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 2:03 am 
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Congrats both, epic game!

That's 9.93 to ez4u, and 0.07 to daniel :)

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Post #19 Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 5:27 am 
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yoyoma wrote:
daniel_the_smith wrote:
ez4u and I just played our game. ez4u won by 29.5, so I guess I did half a point better than resigning... It was close for a long time, I don't feel too bad for messing up with G4 in overtime.


It's useful to know the correct response to wA5. It can be very stressful to suddenly face a reading problem defending this move against the tripod group which most people know is alive.


Yeah, if I hadn't known I had the connection I would have spent a period or two reading. (EDIT: and now the position is cached, hopefully!)

I'm curious what people think of the position at move 40-- Has black already fallen behind a little? Did I make the right weak group on the bottom? Did I handle it ok? My own perception was that I must have screwed up the lower right joseki. By move 83 I thought I'd caught up and it was about even. But white made all the right choices and made more points on the top and side than I expected. Actually at move 99 I thought I had a very promising position, but I was out of time-- did white pull a fast one there or was I just optimistic?

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Post #20 Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 6:53 am 
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topazg wrote:
Congrats both, epic game!

That's 9.93 to ez4u, and 0.07 to daniel :)


It seems that the game was played with the wrong komi, 0.5 instead of 0 (as is in the rules for the tournament). So actually it was a 29 point victory, not 29.5, right? Which would mean 9.91 and 0.09 points to the players. Or does the komi as used stand, even if it is wrong?

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