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Post #361 Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 5:19 pm 
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Nice job, lindentree. You move on to play HermanHiddema. The winner of that game plays Araban, and the winner of that game plays Shaddy for the right to play Tabemasu for the title.

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Post #362 Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:49 am 
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lindentree and myself will be playing this Thursday, 07:30 PDT, which is 22:30 Chinese time, my current timezone (also: 10:30 eastern, 16:30 CEST).

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Post #363 Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 8:30 am 
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Well, I won against lindentree by 3.5 points, but don't ask me how :-?

I played uninspired and with bad reading, and lindentree rightly punished many of my mistakes.

Still, it's fun to play someone who got up early to play before going to work, while I myself am off to bed immediately after the game :)

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Post #364 Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 11:07 am 
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HermanHiddema and I are scheduled to play 7:00pm Pacific on the 24th / 10:00am China on the 25th.

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Post #365 Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 8:04 pm 
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I won my game against HermaHiddema, B+R:

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Post #366 Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 6:46 am 
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Nooo, the last Dutchman was eliminated! Losing the ko at the bottom seems to have been the final blow in this game...

Anyway, I have a question about the top right corner. It really feels as though white got tricked there: even though he got sente, black has the corner plus a wall, and white still has a dodgy shape. How should white play there? Should move 48 have been the splitting hane instead?

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Post #367 Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 10:16 am 
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gaius wrote:
Anyway, I have a question about the top right corner. It really feels as though white got tricked there: even though he got sente, black has the corner plus a wall, and white still has a dodgy shape. How should white play there? Should move 48 have been the splitting hane instead?

Move 48 should have been the empty triangle:
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[go]$$B
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$$ . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . O , X . . |
$$ . . . X O 2 . . . |
$$ . . . . 1 . . . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . . , . . . |[/go]

The reasoning behind the empty triangle is similar to the 5-4 trick play where a refutation is also an empty triangle:
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[go]$$B
$$ ------------------
$$ . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . 1 , 2 . . |
$$ . . . . . 6 4 3 . |
$$ . . . . . . 5 . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . . , . . . |[/go]

Possible variations for this trick play can be found on eidogo. But going back to the 3-4 variation, the best I can really do after the empty triangle is to protect the cut and sacrifice the corner in exchange for thickness, but unfortunately White's territory exceeds Black's thickness in value:
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[go]$$B
$$ ------------------
$$ . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . 7 6 . . . . |
$$ . . 5 4 8 . . . . |
$$ . 9 . 3 O , X . . |
$$ . . . X O O 2 . . |
$$ . . . 1 X . . . . |
$$ . . . . . . 0 . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . . , . . . |[/go]

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Post #368 Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 10:43 am 
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Araban wrote:
...But going back to the 3-4 variation, the best I can really do after the empty triangle is to protect the cut and sacrifice the corner in exchange for thickness, but unfortunately White's territory exceeds Black's thickness in value:
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[go]$$B
$$ ------------------
$$ . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . 7 6 . . . . |
$$ . . 5 4 8 . . . . |
$$ . 9 . 3 O , X . . |
$$ . . . X O O 2 . . |
$$ . . . 1 X . . . . |
$$ . . . . . . 0 . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . . , . . . |[/go]


Wouldn't this be OK in the current game, though, as black already has some power toward the top left?

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Post #369 Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 10:46 am 
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Kirby wrote:
Araban wrote:
...But going back to the 3-4 variation, the best I can really do after the empty triangle is to protect the cut and sacrifice the corner in exchange for thickness, but unfortunately White's territory exceeds Black's thickness in value:
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[go]$$B
$$ ------------------
$$ . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . 7 6 . . . . |
$$ . . 5 4 8 . . . . |
$$ . 9 . 3 O , X . . |
$$ . . . X O O 2 . . |
$$ . . . 1 X . . . . |
$$ . . . . . . 0 . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . . , . . . |[/go]


Wouldn't this be OK in the current game, though, as black already has some power toward the top left?

I don't think so, it looks rather inefficient to have two thick groups face each other like that over 6 lines. Furthermore, D10 is a thorn that neutralizes a lot of center potential for B. If D10 wasn't there and I had E10, then perhaps :P.

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Post #370 Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 7:15 pm 
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Shaddy and I will be playing this Saturday at 7:00pm Pacific / 10:00pm Eastern.

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Post #371 Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 7:49 pm 
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Won my game against Shadonra, W+R - SC2 fans who have been watching the GSL may be amused by the kibitz:


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Post #372 Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 7:51 pm 
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Tabemasu and I will be playing next Saturday (November 6th), 7pm Pacific / 10pm Eastern.

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Post #373 Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 3:03 pm 
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And just to remind everyone how the final match works: Araban has to win two games, but Tabemasu only has to win one (because Araban has lost one game this tournament but Tabemasu hasn't lost any yet).

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Post #374 Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 8:07 pm 
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Tabemasu has taken the Life in 19x19 title :D. Pretty handily too; here's our game:


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Post #375 Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 9:50 pm 
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Congratulations Tabemasu! :clap: :clap: :clap:

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Post #376 Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 10:59 pm 
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Congratulations! Thanks also to Topazg for starting this mess, and to dfan for helping to administrate it!

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Post #377 Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 1:19 am 
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Chew Terr wrote:
Congratulations! Thanks also to Topazg for starting this mess, and to dfan for helping to administrate it!


I join Chew in his congratulations and thanks. It was a very nice idea : to be repeated next year !

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Post #378 Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 1:32 am 
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congrats tabemasu!

Although i didnt participate gotta say it was well organized:) thumbs up!

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Post #379 Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 2:52 am 
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Congratulations Tabemasu!

And thanks everyone, espacially toapzg and dfan for making this nice tournament! : )

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Post #380 Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 4:07 pm 
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Congratulations Tabemasu!

I enjoyed playing in this tournament a lot, and also enjoyed following it. There were a bunch of good stories, from Aphelion's great underdog run to Shaddy's 1d trail of destruction to Araban's comeback from an early loss all the way to the final.

I guess there will probably be another one of these in 2011. Hopefully topazg will be able step back in to run it, though I'm happy to keep track of it again.

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