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Post #1 Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 7:57 am 
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It isn't final but there is talk going on about 10 games match between Lee Sedol vs Gu Li. The 1st game will be played in October. Winner(6 games out of 10) gets $700,000 and loser gets nothing.

http://www.cyberoro.com/news/news_view.oro?num=517757


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Post #2 Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:31 am 
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I wouldn't be surprised if Sedol accepted it, because even though it is far below the 1,500,000 USD he'd announced as his minimum, he's recently(?) been speaking in hyperboles and then tempering some of them in future interviews.

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Post #3 Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:18 am 
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This is great news. I hope BadukTV braodcasts it and we get a subtitled version from GoGameGuru! :D This is great book-stuff as well.

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Post #4 Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:28 am 
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All or nothing seems like a big gamble for a ten game match. I wonder if the players make deals behind the scenes. For instance, say that it is 5 games to 4. The players might agree to play for $300,000 and split the remaining $400,000, with the player who is ahead getting $300,000 and the player who is behind getting $100,000.

OC, such a deal would have to take place behind the scenes, to maintain the drama for the fans.

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Post #5 Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:39 am 
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Who is sponsoring the money for it?

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Post #6 Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:46 am 
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Bill Spight wrote:
All or nothing seems like a big gamble for a ten game match. ......
OC, such a deal would have to take place behind the scenes, to maintain the drama for the fans.


This has to be a cultural thing (the all or nothing). Both for the players and the fans. I don't believe most folks here would see it as all that less dramatic were a prize of $700,000 divided $600,000 to the winner and $100,000 to the loser. Which is equivalent to each of the players being paid $100,000 to take part competing for a prize of $500,000.


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Post #7 Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:26 pm 
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I doubt it is cultural. Or, rather, it is a culture of one. Lee Sedol is an all-or-nothing type of guy. I suspect that he is considering accepting the lower than minimum prize because it matches his style. It may have even been one of his conditions.

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Post #8 Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:27 pm 
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According to this Chinese source: http://weiqi.tom.com/2013-04-03/00UP/49771418.html, the idea is being discussed but at very early stage. May or may not happen.

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Post #9 Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:21 pm 
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I'm not one to use the term "epic" lightly, but this would be epic.

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Post #10 Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:22 pm 
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According to Oro article, Furniture company is sponsoring this match and total money involved is $1,300,000. So there may be game fee for each game.


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Post #11 Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 10:02 am 
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It is official and really happening!!!!!!!!!!!!

Winners prize is 5,000,000 yuan(around $900,000) and loser gets 200,000 yuan. No date is announced yet.

http://www.tygem.com/news/news/viewpage ... &findword=


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Post #12 Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 10:11 am 
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If the 10 games are split 5-5, what is the prize money division?

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Post #13 Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 12:27 pm 
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Not so exciting to me. Sounds more like a big bangneki than a serious go match, the money is the most important thing. I'd be more excited if they played with only a game fee and no big prize for the winner. BTW, what are the playing conditions? Time limits? Is it speed go? On line?


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Post #14 Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:17 am 
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I understand the sponsor is the same that sponsors the Mlily Cup. The first game will be played in Kamakura, the exact location where the famous jubango between Kitani Minoru and Go Seigen was held. Games will start next year, played at a speed of one per month.

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Post #15 Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 3:17 am 
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Not so exciting to me. Sounds more like a big bangneki than a serious go match, the money is the most important thing. I'd be more excited if they played with only a game fee and no big prize for the winner. BTW, what are the playing conditions? Time limits? Is it speed go? On line?

Why you don't want big prizes? Shouldn't they play more seriously when there's more on the line?.

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Post #16 Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 5:04 am 
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What's the time limit per game?

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Post #17 Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 9:10 am 
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I'm excited for this, but I wish it happened a few years ago when both players were in their primes. Gu hasn't been the same since 2011.

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Post #18 Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:18 am 
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I'm just glad they both agreed to participate. I've never seen one of these kinds of matches before, but between two modern giants, it will be amazing

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Post #19 Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 4:19 pm 
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Respect to both players for agreeing to do this series. It's actually quite risky for the loser's legacy; since the two players' careers have been so closely linked, the loser of this series will probably forever be remembered as the lesser player. With the rise of all these powerful new young stars, I'm not sure if Gu Li or Lee Sedol can win a major tournament again.

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Post #20 Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 4:50 pm 
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I'm excited for this, but I wish it happened a few years ago when both players were in their primes. Gu hasn't been the same since 2011.


Give the guy a break. His wife is having a baby in September. But still, go masterpieces can be made by the sleepy or even ill, as history shows.

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