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Post #41 Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 1:47 pm 
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Considering all the ad hominems and trolling and accusations of trolling, I think that this might be an excellect time to lock this thread. Or maybe we could all just abandon it.
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Post #42 Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 2:24 pm 
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I'm moving my post to its own thread...

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Post #43 Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 2:54 pm 
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deja, I accept all of that. But that doesn't stop me respecting a person more when he makes an assertive statement under his own name, no more than respect means I believe his statement. It's not the case that I necessarily disrespect those who use pseudonyms, but I can never shake off all doubts when the tempertature rises. For some, the price of anonymity may be moderation.

I don't wish to imply that it's much of a problem here.

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Post #44 Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 3:16 pm 
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John Fairbairn wrote:
deja, I accept all of that. But that doesn't stop me respecting a person more when he makes an assertive statement under his own name, no more than respect means I believe his statement. It's not the case that I necessarily disrespect those who use pseudonyms, but I can never shake off all doubts when the tempertature rises. For some, the price of anonymity may be moderation.

I don't wish to imply that it's much of a problem here.



All good points, John. My apologies for moving my post. I had second thoughts on its placement and started a new thread. Now I'm having second thoughts on moving it... :-?

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Post #45 Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 4:24 pm 
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RobertJasiek wrote:
John Fairbairn wrote:
I don't think Robert has ever made any concession here.


You just didn't notice.


Do you have an example?

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Post #46 Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 9:09 pm 
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It's looking like a really excellent time to lock this thread...
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Post #47 Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 1:21 am 
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Joaz is getting it right because IMO

John Fairbairn wrote:
Making this sort of comment invites the mathematical QED.
And something's a bit pointless if it's not noticeable.


HermanHiddema wrote:
Do you have an example?


are unfair if only one user explains his motivations while all other users don't.

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Post #48 Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 5:13 am 
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Joaz, if you are going to lock the thread, lock it, but repeatedly threatening to do so seems to me like you are just throwing your weight around. You recently said in your thread asking about how people feel moderating should be done, that parents should have no cause for concern if their children visit the forum. What about this thread should give them cause for concern?

Since Robert Jasiek has agreed with you, I don't want to push this, but it seems to me that this is an issue that the community can work out itself and I would appreciate it if you would draw a clearer distinction between your moderating persona and your commenting one. If this is the moderator's "light hand" that you envision, I'd prefer a strong one.

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Post #49 Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 5:18 am 
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My formal view on this thread is that it has taken some of the off-topic derailing that were happening elsewhere into an ongoing discussion here, which I'm frankly quite happy with. If the attacks become truly ad-hominem (and I am also of the belief that "troll" is an ad-hominem attack), then further action will be required. Asking one another to justify their view is not, in my opinion, ad-hominem.

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