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Post #121 Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 1:09 pm 
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If anyone here is a talented graphics designer, I'd be willing to pay some money to have he/she design some stones for Sabaki. I'm thinking maybe a set of shell and slate and a set of Yunzi stones would be a nice addition.

Anyone else think this is a good idea and be willing to chip in?

P.S. I like the default stones very much; I simply like some more options.


It looks like people have already contributed different styles: https://github.com/yishn/Sabaki/wiki/Userstyles but it will require you to do a little legwork to get them into the program contents.

See the instructions here: https://github.com/yishn/Sabaki/wiki/Userstyle-Tutorial

I'm a designer/front-end developer myself and would be happy to take a swing at making a new skin, but no money necessary. I've been using Sabaki as my SGF viewer since I started learning Go a few weeks ago. I thought it was the most elegant of the offerings out there!


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Post #122 Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:02 pm 
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@fstop: Thank you!

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Some bugs I found (mac osX 10.11.6): When closing the last Sabaki window, I can't use File>New nor File>New Window; I must use Window>New Window or select another application (web browser, desktop, or else...) then re-select Sabaki. This is not critical, as the program is usable, but not user friendly.


You're right, this is due to some technical limitations (but maybe also lazyness on my part that I haven't rewritten the menu logic yet). Duly noted.

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If I'm not mistaken, Leela, and probably other engines, are able to estimate winning probability, it possible to have the option to have that displayed somewhere (like Black 30% - White 70%, or Black (----------| 70% |ooooooo---)White ) ?


It's not part of the GTP specification, so different engines may display different things. I can't do anything about that. There's a GTP console, though. If you know the commands, you can ask for engine information.

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And, while suggesting stuff, maybe reviewing an existing sgf game? For exemple: You load your game, attach the engine, then choose "Review Game (white/black/both)". The engine would give the move it would have played on each moves for the selected color, indicate where the % of winning dropped the most, and give 5 or 10 follow-up moves at those places.


That sounds awesome, but it feels a little out of scope in a simple SGF editor. There are additional software that can do this automatically for you. Maybe GoReviewPartner is what you're looking for?

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Btw, I also like that the software gives the name of the moves played. Nice addition! Are you using a shape library for that?


Thanks! It's a shape library I compiled and is somewhat an experiment. It's still a little weird on some positions as @EdLee pointed out.


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Post #123 Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:10 pm 
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FuriousGeorge wrote:
I'm a designer/front-end developer myself and would be happy to take a swing at making a new skin, but no money necessary. I've been using Sabaki as my SGF viewer since I started learning Go a few weeks ago. I thought it was the most elegant of the offerings out there!


Thank you, please do share your work once you finish one, I'm always looking forward to new userstyles!

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Post #124 Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 10:24 pm 
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FuriousGeorge wrote:
ewan1971 wrote:
If anyone here is a talented graphics designer, I'd be willing to pay some money to have he/she design some stones for Sabaki. I'm thinking maybe a set of shell and slate and a set of Yunzi stones would be a nice addition.

Anyone else think this is a good idea and be willing to chip in?

P.S. I like the default stones very much; I simply like some more options.


It looks like people have already contributed different styles: https://github.com/yishn/Sabaki/wiki/Userstyles but it will require you to do a little legwork to get them into the program contents.

See the instructions here: https://github.com/yishn/Sabaki/wiki/Userstyle-Tutorial

I'm a designer/front-end developer myself and would be happy to take a swing at making a new skin, but no money necessary. I've been using Sabaki as my SGF viewer since I started learning Go a few weeks ago. I thought it was the most elegant of the offerings out there!


Thank you very much for the pointers and links!

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Post #125 Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 3:27 pm 
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Is there anything that can be done to improve the load time for the application? For example, opening a new window with a blank board seems to take time compared to other SGF editors.

Maybe it's just my perception...?

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Post #126 Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 7:00 pm 
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FuriousGeorge wrote:
ewan1971 wrote:
If anyone here is a talented graphics designer, I'd be willing to pay some money to have he/she design some stones for Sabaki

pay me, i can do it with one hand behind my back, by copying and pasting from cgoban. then i can spend the money to hire someone to turn Sabaki into icGo for me.

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Post #127 Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 8:28 am 
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Is there anything that can be done to improve the load time for the application? For example, opening a new window with a blank board seems to take time compared to other SGF editors.

Maybe it's just my perception...?


Have you tried Sabaki since the new v0.30.1 release? That was a big performance-related change since it switched to Preact.

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Post #128 Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 10:33 pm 
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Have you tried Sabaki since the new v0.30.1 release? That was a big performance-related change since it switched to Preact.


Thanks for mentioning this. I made a funny mistake. From when I installed v0.20.<something>, Sabaki was installed under Windows in my "Program Files (x86)" folder - maybe I installed the ia32 version by mistake. When I downloaded the update, it installed to "Program Files". So even though, I had a new version installed, the shortcut I had been using pointed to the old version.

Now that I'm using the latest version, I'd say that it's not terrible. Still a bit more lag than I'd like - maybe about 1.5 seconds to load a new window on my laptop.

Not a huge deal, I suppose... I can live with this if it means I get to have all of the nice features Sabaki supports :-D

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Post #129 Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 10:20 am 
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There's sabaki editor for android in play store is it yours or some knock off

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Post #130 Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 3:43 pm 
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Sakeus wrote:
There's sabaki editor for android in play store is it yours or some knock off


I'm hearing of this the first time, I suspect it's a thin wrapper around the web version of Sabaki. Which, BTW, is not optimized for touch devices at all.

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Post #131 Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 2:12 am 
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yishn wrote:
Sakeus wrote:
There's sabaki editor for android in play store is it yours or some knock off


I'm hearing of this the first time, I suspect it's a thin wrapper around the web version of Sabaki. Which, BTW, is not optimized for touch devices at all.


Just as I thought. It's bad.
Are you thinking of doing sabaki for android? I am looking for some app with the moves tree and so on. I record my tournament games on my phone and If possible review them right after and the tree would help a lot. :) and I freaking love how sabaki looks.

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Post #132 Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 8:18 am 
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I noticed something odd about how Sabaki handles file names. If I open an sgf file, it gives the file name in the upper left. However, if I then save the file under a new name (save as), the new file name does not replace the old one in the upper left. It looks like the programs does follow the convention that "save" automatically saves to the last used file name. So, if I save file1 as file2, Sabaki will save to the name file2 when I hit "save". It looks like the screen is just not updated when the file name changes.

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Post #133 Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 11:02 am 
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I noticed something odd about how Sabaki handles file names. If I open an sgf file, it gives the file name in the upper left. However, if I then save the file under a new name (save as), the new file name does not replace the old one in the upper left. It looks like the programs does follow the convention that "save" automatically saves to the last used file name. So, if I save file1 as file2, Sabaki will save to the name file2 when I hit "save". It looks like the screen is just not updated when the file name changes.


I can't seem to reproduce the behavior you're describing. If I open a file, say `file.sgf`, and save as `new.sgf`, then the title of the window will change to `new.sgf` as expected.

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Post #134 Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 11:26 am 
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I can't seem to reproduce the behavior you're describing. If I open a file, say `file.sgf`, and save as `new.sgf`, then the title of the window will change to `new.sgf` as expected.


Interesting. I can reproduce it on my installation. What can I share with you to help you figure out what is going on? I could e-mail you a video of the sequence if that would be helpful. But I'd rather not post that on a public forum.

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Post #135 Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 10:15 am 
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Interesting. I can reproduce it on my installation. What can I share with you to help you figure out what is going on? I could e-mail you a video of the sequence if that would be helpful. But I'd rather not post that on a public forum.


Sure, a video could be useful. You can contact me at shen.yichuan[at]gmail.com. Can you tell me what OS you're using? Also, you can try to reinstall Sabaki.

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Post #136 Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 11:55 pm 
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Interesting. I can reproduce it on my installation. What can I share with you to help you figure out what is going on? I could e-mail you a video of the sequence if that would be helpful. But I'd rather not post that on a public forum.


I've received your video, but I still can't reproduce this behaviour on the latest version of Sabaki. I suspect you have an outdated version. I can vaguely remember that this was an issue some versions ago...

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Post #137 Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 1:57 pm 
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Interesting. I can reproduce it on my installation. What can I share with you to help you figure out what is going on? I could e-mail you a video of the sequence if that would be helpful. But I'd rather not post that on a public forum.


I've received your video, but I still can't reproduce this behaviour on the latest version of Sabaki. I suspect you have an outdated version. I can vaguely remember that this was an issue some versions ago...


Sorry for the delayed reply on this. It slipped my mind. I'm running V0.31.2. That is the most recent one, no?

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Post #138 Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 12:14 pm 
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Sorry for the delayed reply on this. It slipped my mind. I'm running V0.31.2. That is the most recent one, no?


Yes, it is... Hmm, I'm running out of ideas now. Have you already tried downloading a fresh version? Other things you could do is to remove the config folder located at `%APPDATA%\Sabaki`.

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Post #139 Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 1:02 pm 
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Yes, it is... Hmm, I'm running out of ideas now. Have you already tried downloading a fresh version? Other things you could do is to remove the config folder located at `%APPDATA%\Sabaki`.


I had tried reinstalling before, but I just uninstalled the program, removed the config folder, and then reinstalled. No luck. Still doing the same thing.

However, I noticed something new. (This may have been the case before the reinstall, but I only noticed it afterwards.) If I open a file (say file1) and save it as file2, file1 is still listed in the upper left. However, in the program tab in the tool bar, it lists the name correctly as file 2, and if I minimize and then maximize the window, the file2 is then correctly shown in the upper left as well.

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Post #140 Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 4:10 am 
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Yes, it is... Hmm, I'm running out of ideas now. Have you already tried downloading a fresh version? Other things you could do is to remove the config folder located at `%APPDATA%\Sabaki`.


I had tried reinstalling before, but I just uninstalled the program, removed the config folder, and then reinstalled. No luck. Still doing the same thing.

However, I noticed something new. (This may have been the case before the reinstall, but I only noticed it afterwards.) If I open a file (say file1) and save it as file2, file1 is still listed in the upper left. However, in the program tab in the tool bar, it lists the name correctly as file 2, and if I minimize and then maximize the window, the file2 is then correctly shown in the upper left as well.


I don't know what you mean by "program tab" and "tool bar", but I assume you mean the Windows task bar? It seems like Windows isn't redrawing the title bar for some reason. I notice you're using the 'classic' Windows theme, maybe it's related to that? In any case, this is most likely an Electron bug.

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