The Commentaries of Honinbo Shuei
- smartgo
- Dies with sente
- Posts: 110
- Joined: Sat Apr 24, 2010 4:23 pm
- Rank: AGA 3 dan
- GD Posts: 0
- Has thanked: 11 times
- Been thanked: 120 times
Re: The Commentaries of Honinbo Shuei
“The Life, Games and Commentaries of Honinbo Shuei” is now available in SmartGo Books. Please see http://www.smartgo.com/booklist.htm for details.
Thanks to John Fairbairn for writing this important book, and to John Mifsud for converting it to SmartGo Books format. I really enjoyed reading it; you're in for a treat.
Thanks to John Fairbairn for writing this important book, and to John Mifsud for converting it to SmartGo Books format. I really enjoyed reading it; you're in for a treat.
Anders Kierulf
@smartgo
@smartgo
- quantumf
- Lives in sente
- Posts: 844
- Joined: Tue Apr 20, 2010 11:36 pm
- Rank: 3d
- GD Posts: 422
- KGS: komi
- Has thanked: 180 times
- Been thanked: 151 times
Re: The Commentaries of Honinbo Shuei
Android, please?smartgo wrote:“The Life, Games and Commentaries of Honinbo Shuei” is now available in SmartGo Books.
-
hyperpape
- Tengen
- Posts: 4382
- Joined: Thu May 06, 2010 3:24 pm
- Rank: AGA 3k
- GD Posts: 65
- OGS: Hyperpape 4k
- Location: Caldas da Rainha, Portugal
- Has thanked: 499 times
- Been thanked: 727 times
Re: The Commentaries of Honinbo Shuei
Nothing is stopping someone from making an android book reader. Anders has said he has no exclusivity agreement.
- quantumf
- Lives in sente
- Posts: 844
- Joined: Tue Apr 20, 2010 11:36 pm
- Rank: 3d
- GD Posts: 422
- KGS: komi
- Has thanked: 180 times
- Been thanked: 151 times
Re: The Commentaries of Honinbo Shuei
I'm not sure what that means. The books are in Smartgo format, which is a branded concept, with licensing arrangements. I very much doubt he will allow some 3rd party to create an Android Smartgo Books reader, and even if he would, I fail to see how the licensing of the books would work.hyperpape wrote:Nothing is stopping someone from making an android book reader. Anders has said he has no exclusivity agreement.
Furthermore, he has said that he won't consider this port until there is a successful Android tablet. I wonder what he would consider successful. The Nexus 7 has done very well, from what I can tell, although Google are cagey on sales figures. The Amazon Android devices have also done pretty well.
- oren
- Oza
- Posts: 2777
- Joined: Sun Apr 18, 2010 5:54 pm
- GD Posts: 0
- KGS: oren
- Tygem: oren740, orenl
- IGS: oren
- Wbaduk: oren
- Location: Seattle, WA
- Has thanked: 251 times
- Been thanked: 549 times
Re: The Commentaries of Honinbo Shuei
It's already been answered below, but I'll join in too. Many people would jump at the chance to quickly make the reader if the books were available for purchase in some format.hyperpape wrote:Nothing is stopping someone from making an android book reader. Anders has said he has no exclusivity agreement.
- smartgo
- Dies with sente
- Posts: 110
- Joined: Sat Apr 24, 2010 4:23 pm
- Rank: AGA 3 dan
- GD Posts: 0
- Has thanked: 11 times
- Been thanked: 120 times
Re: The Commentaries of Honinbo Shuei
Please see http://www.usgo.org/news/2013/01/your-m ... r-smartgo/ for my current stance on Android. Add to that e.g. the 80/20 revenue split mentioned here: http://allthingsd.com/20130416/mlb-com- ... s-on-deck/ I'll evaluate Android again once I ship the Mac version.
As for non-exclusive: publishers and authors are free to sell their books through any other means. But you need somebody willing to make a significant investment in app development and book conversion.
Some publishers and authors may go for selling the Go book file directly (which would enable anybody to build readers for other platforms), others may not. Something to consider, but again: Mac first.
As for non-exclusive: publishers and authors are free to sell their books through any other means. But you need somebody willing to make a significant investment in app development and book conversion.
Some publishers and authors may go for selling the Go book file directly (which would enable anybody to build readers for other platforms), others may not. Something to consider, but again: Mac first.
Anders Kierulf
@smartgo
@smartgo
- Bonobo
- Oza
- Posts: 2238
- Joined: Fri Dec 23, 2011 6:39 pm
- Rank: OGS 12k
- GD Posts: 0
- OGS: trohde
- Universal go server handle: trohde
- Location: Lüneburg Heath, North Germany
- Has thanked: 8273 times
- Been thanked: 930 times
- Contact:
Re: The Commentaries of Honinbo Shuei
Mac first? Good news for Mac users (I’m one).
A question that may be premature: Would it be so that i could use the books purchased with my IOS SmartGo Books on my OS X SmartGo Books?
A question that may be premature: Would it be so that i could use the books purchased with my IOS SmartGo Books on my OS X SmartGo Books?
“The only difference between me and a madman is that I’m not mad.” — Salvador Dalí
- oren
- Oza
- Posts: 2777
- Joined: Sun Apr 18, 2010 5:54 pm
- GD Posts: 0
- KGS: oren
- Tygem: oren740, orenl
- IGS: oren
- Wbaduk: oren
- Location: Seattle, WA
- Has thanked: 251 times
- Been thanked: 549 times
Re: The Commentaries of Honinbo Shuei
http://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/LinhNgo/ ... Mortem.php
Another interesting story about it Android and iOS development.
I was glad the previous books were at least Kindle so I could read them everywhere. I'm not likely to buy an iOS device anytime soon.
Another interesting story about it Android and iOS development.
I was glad the previous books were at least Kindle so I could read them everywhere. I'm not likely to buy an iOS device anytime soon.
- smartgo
- Dies with sente
- Posts: 110
- Joined: Sat Apr 24, 2010 4:23 pm
- Rank: AGA 3 dan
- GD Posts: 0
- Has thanked: 11 times
- Been thanked: 120 times
Re: The Commentaries of Honinbo Shuei
Can't promise that at this point.Bonobo wrote:A question that may be premature: Would it be so that i could use the books purchased with my IOS SmartGo Books on my OS X SmartGo Books?
Anders Kierulf
@smartgo
@smartgo
-
imabuddha
- Lives with ko
- Posts: 255
- Joined: Tue Apr 20, 2010 12:40 pm
- GD Posts: 0
- Location: Miyazaki, Japan
- Has thanked: 354 times
- Been thanked: 66 times
Re: The Commentaries of Honinbo Shuei
Another point of reference, Nexus tablet sales: http://ben-evans.com/benedictevans/2013 ... s-not-manyquantumf wrote:Furthermore, he has said that he won't consider this port until there is a successful Android tablet. I wonder what he would consider successful. The Nexus 7 has done very well, from what I can tell, although Google are cagey on sales figures. The Amazon Android devices have also done pretty well.
Of course other Android tablet manufacturers probably sell more units, but the tablet market is currently dominated by iOS devices.
For the record I own a Nexus 7, and consider it a pretty good device. After the first month of ownership it has mainly been sitting on my desk "dreaming".
-
hyperpape
- Tengen
- Posts: 4382
- Joined: Thu May 06, 2010 3:24 pm
- Rank: AGA 3k
- GD Posts: 65
- OGS: Hyperpape 4k
- Location: Caldas da Rainha, Portugal
- Has thanked: 499 times
- Been thanked: 727 times
Re: The Commentaries of Honinbo Shuei
So, do the comments in this thread indicate that the format is proprietary and/or that the authors do not have rights to the books in SG format? I had the opposite impression, but I'm not sure if it was well founded.
-
amnal
- Lives in gote
- Posts: 589
- Joined: Fri Apr 23, 2010 10:42 am
- Rank: 2 dan
- GD Posts: 0
- Been thanked: 114 times
Re: The Commentaries of Honinbo Shuei
The only information I've seen was http://lifein19x19.com/forum/viewtopic. ... =20#p59279 , which looking at it is a couple of years old now...I'd be very interested in any updates, at the very least it would be good to have at least a vague standard that other parties can follow rather than reinventing all the wheels.hyperpape wrote:So, do the comments in this thread indicate that the format is proprietary and/or that the authors do not have rights to the books in SG format? I had the opposite impression, but I'm not sure if it was well founded.
- smartgo
- Dies with sente
- Posts: 110
- Joined: Sat Apr 24, 2010 4:23 pm
- Rank: AGA 3 dan
- GD Posts: 0
- Has thanked: 11 times
- Been thanked: 120 times
Re: The Commentaries of Honinbo Shuei
That information is out of date. After creating twenty Go books using extensions of SGF, it became apparent that there was a mismatch between the tree structure of SGF and the more linear structure of a book. I'm now using a completely different format geared towards Go books. I plan to release a draft spec for that once I get the next version of SmartGo Kifu out the door.amnal wrote:The only information I've seen was http://lifein19x19.com/forum/viewtopic. ... =20#p59279 , which looking at it is a couple of years old now...I'd be very interested in any updates, at the very least it would be good to have at least a vague standard that other parties can follow rather than reinventing all the wheels.
Anders Kierulf
@smartgo
@smartgo
-
Bill Spight
- Honinbo
- Posts: 10905
- Joined: Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:24 pm
- Has thanked: 3651 times
- Been thanked: 3374 times
Re: The Commentaries of Honinbo Shuei
I think that hypertext (not a tree, but a DAG) can be a very good format for some books, some instructional go books in particular. (Some paper books have used it; Tutor Texts, IIRC.smartgo wrote:After creating twenty Go books using extensions of SGF, it became apparent that there was a mismatch between the tree structure of SGF and the more linear structure of a book. I'm now using a completely different format geared towards Go books.
The Adkins Principle:
At some point, doesn't thinking have to go on?
— Winona Adkins
Visualize whirled peas.
Everything with love. Stay safe.
At some point, doesn't thinking have to go on?
— Winona Adkins
Visualize whirled peas.
Everything with love. Stay safe.