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Post #121 Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 1:09 pm 
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If anyone here is a talented graphics designer, I'd be willing to pay some money to have he/she design some stones for Sabaki. I'm thinking maybe a set of shell and slate and a set of Yunzi stones would be a nice addition.

Anyone else think this is a good idea and be willing to chip in?

P.S. I like the default stones very much; I simply like some more options.


It looks like people have already contributed different styles: https://github.com/yishn/Sabaki/wiki/Userstyles but it will require you to do a little legwork to get them into the program contents.

See the instructions here: https://github.com/yishn/Sabaki/wiki/Userstyle-Tutorial

I'm a designer/front-end developer myself and would be happy to take a swing at making a new skin, but no money necessary. I've been using Sabaki as my SGF viewer since I started learning Go a few weeks ago. I thought it was the most elegant of the offerings out there!


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Post #122 Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:02 pm 
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@fstop: Thank you!

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Some bugs I found (mac osX 10.11.6): When closing the last Sabaki window, I can't use File>New nor File>New Window; I must use Window>New Window or select another application (web browser, desktop, or else...) then re-select Sabaki. This is not critical, as the program is usable, but not user friendly.


You're right, this is due to some technical limitations (but maybe also lazyness on my part that I haven't rewritten the menu logic yet). Duly noted.

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If I'm not mistaken, Leela, and probably other engines, are able to estimate winning probability, it possible to have the option to have that displayed somewhere (like Black 30% - White 70%, or Black (----------| 70% |ooooooo---)White ) ?


It's not part of the GTP specification, so different engines may display different things. I can't do anything about that. There's a GTP console, though. If you know the commands, you can ask for engine information.

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And, while suggesting stuff, maybe reviewing an existing sgf game? For exemple: You load your game, attach the engine, then choose "Review Game (white/black/both)". The engine would give the move it would have played on each moves for the selected color, indicate where the % of winning dropped the most, and give 5 or 10 follow-up moves at those places.


That sounds awesome, but it feels a little out of scope in a simple SGF editor. There are additional software that can do this automatically for you. Maybe GoReviewPartner is what you're looking for?

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Btw, I also like that the software gives the name of the moves played. Nice addition! Are you using a shape library for that?


Thanks! It's a shape library I compiled and is somewhat an experiment. It's still a little weird on some positions as @EdLee pointed out.


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Post #123 Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:10 pm 
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I'm a designer/front-end developer myself and would be happy to take a swing at making a new skin, but no money necessary. I've been using Sabaki as my SGF viewer since I started learning Go a few weeks ago. I thought it was the most elegant of the offerings out there!


Thank you, please do share your work once you finish one, I'm always looking forward to new userstyles!

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Post #124 Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 10:24 pm 
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ewan1971 wrote:
If anyone here is a talented graphics designer, I'd be willing to pay some money to have he/she design some stones for Sabaki. I'm thinking maybe a set of shell and slate and a set of Yunzi stones would be a nice addition.

Anyone else think this is a good idea and be willing to chip in?

P.S. I like the default stones very much; I simply like some more options.


It looks like people have already contributed different styles: https://github.com/yishn/Sabaki/wiki/Userstyles but it will require you to do a little legwork to get them into the program contents.

See the instructions here: https://github.com/yishn/Sabaki/wiki/Userstyle-Tutorial

I'm a designer/front-end developer myself and would be happy to take a swing at making a new skin, but no money necessary. I've been using Sabaki as my SGF viewer since I started learning Go a few weeks ago. I thought it was the most elegant of the offerings out there!


Thank you very much for the pointers and links!

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Post #125 Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 3:27 pm 
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Is there anything that can be done to improve the load time for the application? For example, opening a new window with a blank board seems to take time compared to other SGF editors.

Maybe it's just my perception...?

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Post #126 Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 7:00 pm 
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FuriousGeorge wrote:
ewan1971 wrote:
If anyone here is a talented graphics designer, I'd be willing to pay some money to have he/she design some stones for Sabaki

pay me, i can do it with one hand behind my back, by copying and pasting from cgoban. then i can spend the money to hire someone to turn Sabaki into icGo for me.

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Post #127 Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 8:28 am 
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Kirby wrote:
Is there anything that can be done to improve the load time for the application? For example, opening a new window with a blank board seems to take time compared to other SGF editors.

Maybe it's just my perception...?


Have you tried Sabaki since the new v0.30.1 release? That was a big performance-related change since it switched to Preact.

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Post #128 Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 10:33 pm 
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Have you tried Sabaki since the new v0.30.1 release? That was a big performance-related change since it switched to Preact.


Thanks for mentioning this. I made a funny mistake. From when I installed v0.20.<something>, Sabaki was installed under Windows in my "Program Files (x86)" folder - maybe I installed the ia32 version by mistake. When I downloaded the update, it installed to "Program Files". So even though, I had a new version installed, the shortcut I had been using pointed to the old version.

Now that I'm using the latest version, I'd say that it's not terrible. Still a bit more lag than I'd like - maybe about 1.5 seconds to load a new window on my laptop.

Not a huge deal, I suppose... I can live with this if it means I get to have all of the nice features Sabaki supports :-D

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