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Post #41 Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 12:55 pm 
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It should work.
Did you try hackinger's instructions in post #17? I guess mine in #16 would work too. It you still get the download issue, try downloading again.

Btw, I see that Frank has heavily edited his last blog entry. If you have been keeping up with Frank vs. the world it's worth a re-read :)

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Post #42 Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 1:04 pm 
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I will try again then,thank you very much!About the discussion about the author;even if I personnaly do not understand how it is possible to think like he does today;I'm just looking for a good go programm.If his is a good one,then I'll use it for his quality.Creator's opinions and creation are something altogether différent to me;even if I completely understand opinions of people who don't wanna use it

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Post #43 Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 11:54 am 
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I managed to install the programm but when I start it,my computer slow down and a message appears,telling me"incorrect parameter".Do you know what the problem is?Sorry to bother you again...

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Post #44 Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 1:20 pm 
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Try the troubleshooting section in the manual:
http://www.moyogo.com/MoyoGo.htm

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Post #45 Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 3:41 pm 
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hmm odd, following those fixes it worked a few times. but now after 2-3 days of not running it. and not installing anything new. it is back to locking up on start >.< even uninstalling it /reinstalling it using the fixes does nothing

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Post #46 Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 4:18 pm 
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It should work.
Did you try hackinger's instructions in post #17? I guess mine in #16 would work too. It you still get the download issue, try downloading again.

Btw, I see that Frank has heavily edited his last blog entry. If you have been keeping up with Frank vs. the world it's worth a re-read :)


I do have to say that I did indeed follow your instructions and they worked like a charm. :D

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Post #47 Posted: Mon May 24, 2010 6:49 pm 
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Moyogo Interesting Software.

I have tried before 2007.

From one side good that it's free,from another side it will be no new versions :(

Does author planing to Make Some Game Packs in future?

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Post #48 Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 1:41 am 
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From his post, I don't think he plans on making anything else with it for now. But you can always add game collections to the database by themselves, without using a game pack.

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Post #49 Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 10:59 pm 
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hmm odd, following those fixes it worked a few times. but now after 2-3 days of not running it. and not installing anything new. it is back to locking up on start >.< even uninstalling it /reinstalling it using the fixes does nothing


I have the same problem, did you manage to solve it? Or anyone else? Does Moyo go still work for you after some time? It's quite frustrating...

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Post #50 Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 8:24 am 
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True, I have not found, not even after years of searching, any credible evidence that people ever were gassed and incinerated by the Nazi’s[...]


...I'm not downloading this software even if it were the last exe-file on the globe.


Hi

i`ve just downloaded 28% of moyo.exe then i read this from Jonas.
Jonas and i may have a very similar opinion about Nazi supporters.
Absolute nogo software for me.

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Post #51 Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 1:47 pm 
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hmm odd, following those fixes it worked a few times. but now after 2-3 days of not running it. and not installing anything new. it is back to locking up on start >.< even uninstalling it /reinstalling it using the fixes does nothing


I have the same problem, did you manage to solve it? Or anyone else? Does Moyo go still work for you after some time? It's quite frustrating...


Are you using Windows Defender?

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Post #52 Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 3:03 pm 
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POGO wrote:
hmm odd, following those fixes it worked a few times. but now after 2-3 days of not running it. and not installing anything new. it is back to locking up on start >.< even uninstalling it /reinstalling it using the fixes does nothing


I have the same problem, did you manage to solve it? Or anyone else? Does Moyo go still work for you after some time? It's quite frustrating...


Are you using Windows Defender?



THANKS A LOT!!! Indeed, I was using it. Although I read it could be a problem, so I turned off permanent scanning (or something like that) it did not help. After reading your post I turned it off for good and Moyo go works again now :) I hope it stays like that, I wonder if Windows defender damages Moyo go's files? I would prefer to be able to turn it off just for Moyo go usage and to use it otherwise, but if it is not possible, I will keep it turned off.

And for the record, I'm not a nazi supporter. Frank was often behaving like a jerk, he has some serious mental issues (he wrote about it many times) and I don't think he really thinks what he sometimes writes. He insulted me few times unprovoked when I tried to help him developing Moyo go, but still I think he is a brilliant programmer and Moyo go is a first class program.

BTW, Fisher was quite an ugly type (or just ill) in his older life, so was Alechin, but I still enjoy reading their chess books and watching their games.

[EDIT:] Unfortunately it stopped working again today. Defender was turned off. Any other ideas? Does it work for anybody using Windows 7 64bit for more than a few days?

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Post #53 Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 11:21 pm 
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Are you using Windows Defender?


THANKS A LOT!!! Indeed, I was using it. Although I read it could be a problem, so I turned off permanent scanning (or something like that) it did not help. After reading your post I turned it off for good and Moyo go works again now :) I hope it stays like that, I wonder if Windows defender damages Moyo go's files? I would prefer to be able to turn it off just for Moyo go usage and to use it otherwise, but if it is not possible, I will keep it turned off.


This is just an uneducated guess, but I don't think Defender damages the files. I think it's just preventing Moyo go to execute in the way it wants. Once you disable it, it won't interfere. Again, I'm just guessing.

IIRC even the Moyo go installer uses self modifying code (or executes code that isn't marked as executable or whatever it was), something that has legitimate uses but is most commonly used in malware. Since it's mostly used by malware, and Microsoft wants to prevent those, legitimate software is affected if it uses such features.

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Post #54 Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 11:37 pm 
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THANKS A LOT!!! Indeed, I was using it. Although I read it could be a problem, so I turned off permanent scanning (or something like that) it did not help. After reading your post I turned it off for good and Moyo go works again now :) I hope it stays like that, I wonder if Windows defender damages Moyo go's files? I would prefer to be able to turn it off just for Moyo go usage and to use it otherwise, but if it is not possible, I will keep it turned off.


This is just an uneducated guess, but I don't think Defender damages the files. I think it's just preventing Moyo go to execute in the way it wants. Once you disable it, it won't interfere. Again, I'm just guessing.

IIRC even the Moyo go installer uses self modifying code (or executes code that isn't marked as executable or whatever it was), something that has legitimate uses but is most commonly used in malware. Since it's mostly used by malware, and Microsoft wants to prevent those, legitimate software is affected if it uses such features.



Unfortunately it stopped working again next day... Does it work for you? What OS do you have?

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Post #55 Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 11:51 pm 
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Unfortunately it stopped working again next day... Does it work for you? What OS do you have?


I'm using the retail version on Win7 64 bit and it works every time. I accidentaly deleted the virtual machine I installed the free version in, but I doubt it's the version that the problem. Specifically, I'm not using Windows Defender. I use the free Avast antivirus, and have set the proper exceptions in DEP.

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Post #56 Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 4:03 am 
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Unfortunately it stopped working again next day... Does it work for you? What OS do you have?


I'm using the retail version on Win7 64 bit and it works every time. I accidentaly deleted the virtual machine I installed the free version in, but I doubt it's the version that the problem. Specifically, I'm not using Windows Defender. I use the free Avast antivirus, and have set the proper exceptions in DEP.



Well, I have the same configuration (OS, Avast). It seems that it would be difficult to find the source of the problem, it can be anything... Good to know that it's (rahter) not Avast. I will try experimenting and I will post here if I solve it.

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Post #57 Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 8:29 am 
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He could release a paper in his pattern maching algorithm, now that he isn't trying to sell it or develop it anymore... instead of biching others that get the credit for things that he claim to have done before.

And well, trying to run it in my virtual machine. It is good to have one of those at hand. :cool:

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Post #58 Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 3:46 am 
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I have posted a paper with the exact algorithm on how the pattern system works. It has been available on my site for years as a PDF.

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Post #59 Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:26 am 
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FrankdeGroot wrote:
I have posted a paper with the exact algorithm on how the pattern system works. It has been available on my site for years as a PDF.


I remember reading that you had an improved algorithm that hasn't yet been released. I'd be extatic to know more about it.

If I ever get eons of free time I'm hoping to one day implement your algorithm. I don't see how I could muster the time needed any time soon though :) Perhaps when I retire. Only 32 more years to go :)

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Post #60 Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 6:12 am 
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My 1st algo was the Baysian approach published by MS. My improved algo is the one on my site.

BTW Mr. Jung, where in Sweden do you live? In ten days or so we'll be travelling all through Sweden with our campervan and could drop by :-)

EDIT That's very much south of the southernmost part we'll be visiting..


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